Eyes of Blades
11 Nov 2014 22:22 #67358
by Nac
Eyes of Blades was created by Nac
Hi. This is perhaps a misunderstanding of english rather than a rules question, but here it goes: When Eyes of Blades refer to "strikes and damage from retainers": is the card refering to strikes from the opposing minion or to strikes from retainers? Is there some retainer that does strike? (Ghoul retainer says that its own effect is not a strike but I'm stll confused)
Card texts:
Eyes Of Blades
Do not replace until your untap phase.
AuspexCelerity Strike: dodge, and this vampire may prevent 1 damage from a retainer.
AuspexCelerity Only usable before range is determined. This round, this vampire cannot strike, and strikes and damage from retainers have no effect on this vampire and any non-retainer cards on him or her.
Ghoul Retainer
Ghoul with 2 life. 1 strength.
During the initial strike resolution each round, the Ghoul Retainer inflicts 1 damage or may use a weapon not used by the employing minion (or another retainer) that round (either before or after). This is not a strike, although it does count as "using" the weapon.
Card texts:
Eyes Of Blades
Do not replace until your untap phase.
AuspexCelerity Strike: dodge, and this vampire may prevent 1 damage from a retainer.
AuspexCelerity Only usable before range is determined. This round, this vampire cannot strike, and strikes and damage from retainers have no effect on this vampire and any non-retainer cards on him or her.
Ghoul Retainer
Ghoul with 2 life. 1 strength.
During the initial strike resolution each round, the Ghoul Retainer inflicts 1 damage or may use a weapon not used by the employing minion (or another retainer) that round (either before or after). This is not a strike, although it does count as "using" the weapon.
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12 Nov 2014 02:41 #67360
by brandonsantacruz
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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Replied by brandonsantacruz on topic Re: Eyes of Blades
If using Eye of Blades at AUS CEL your minion can ignore all damage from retainers and strikes. Ghoul retainer specifically states that ghoul retainer's damage is not a strike.
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
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12 Nov 2014 05:54 - 12 Nov 2014 05:56 #67361
by HG.fi
The text should be parsed like this:
"strikes have no effect on this vampire and any non-retainer cards on him or her, and damage from retainers has no effect on this vampire and any non-retainer cards on him or her."
I understand why you're confused. The text is not perfectly worded, and can easily be misunderstood.
Replied by HG.fi on topic Re: Eyes of Blades
When Eyes of Blades refer to "strikes and damage from retainers"
The text should be parsed like this:
"strikes have no effect on this vampire and any non-retainer cards on him or her, and damage from retainers has no effect on this vampire and any non-retainer cards on him or her."
I understand why you're confused. The text is not perfectly worded, and can easily be misunderstood.
Last edit: 12 Nov 2014 05:56 by HG.fi.
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19 Nov 2014 15:55 #67489
by jamesatzephyr
Just to provide an actual ruling to back up the (correct) answers:
[FZD 20130205]
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Eyes of Blades
Hi. This is perhaps a misunderstanding of english rather than a rules question, but here it goes: When Eyes of Blades refer to "strikes and damage from retainers": is the card refering to strikes from the opposing minion or to strikes from retainers? Is there some retainer that does strike?
Just to provide an actual ruling to back up the (correct) answers:
[FZD 20130205]
> Anyway, Eye of Blades protect from
> - strikes
> - damage dealt by retainers (they don't strike)
Correct.
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