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20 Jan 2016 02:03 #75054 by Blooded Sand
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419 Operation
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+1 stealth action.
Put this card in play. During your untap phase, you may move 1 pool from your prey's pool to this card or move the pool on this card to your pool. Your prey can burn the Edge to move the counters on this card to his or her pool and burn this card.

Does the wording in te last sentence indicate, as I would guess, that if there is no counter your prey cannot burn the edge to burn the card?
If he CAN burn the Edge to burn the counters AND this card, and there are no counters, can he burn the edge? No valid target etc etc
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20 Jan 2016 07:09 #75059 by Ankha
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You can burn the Edge to get back the counters (that is 0 of them) and burn the card, even if there are no counters.
Theft of Vitae can steal 0 blood.
Villein can bring back 0 pool (if the vampire is empty).
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23 Aug 2022 06:10 #106083 by lip
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Sorry to unhurt an old ruling @Ankha. For reference, can you confirm it now that you're RD? (this one post from yours is too old to stand as official)
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11 Oct 2022 06:42 #106531 by lip
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11 Oct 2022 13:37 #106539 by Ankha
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You can burn the Edge to get back the counters (that is 0 of them) and burn the card, even if there are no counters.
Theft of Vitae can steal 0 blood.
Villein can bring back 0 pool (if the vampire is empty).

This is confirmed.
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