Poison Pill - Ancient Influence
12 Aug 2018 21:42 #89928
by thelonius reloaded
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Poison Pill - Ancient Influence was created by thelonius reloaded
I'm sorry but I can't post the 2 cards text.
Poison Pill states that the Methuselah calling the referendum LOSES the same amount of pool you LOSE for the referendum.
Ancient Influence (but also Kine resources contested or reins of power) uses the wording "burn pool".
In my opinion it's obvious that the burnt pool is lost, then poison pill works, but I 'd prefer it's crystal clear...
Poison Pill states that the Methuselah calling the referendum LOSES the same amount of pool you LOSE for the referendum.
Ancient Influence (but also Kine resources contested or reins of power) uses the wording "burn pool".
In my opinion it's obvious that the burnt pool is lost, then poison pill works, but I 'd prefer it's crystal clear...
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12 Aug 2018 21:47 #89929
by Snodig
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Poison Pill
[Reaction]
Only usable during a referendum, before votes and ballots are cast.
If the referendum passes and the effect of the referendum causes you to lose pool, the controller of the acting vampire loses the same amount of pool (in addition to the effects of the referendum).
Ancient Influence
[Political Action]
Successful referendum means each Methuselah may choose a ready vampire he or she controls. Each Methuselah gains an amount of pool from the blood bank equal to his or her chosen vampire's capacity. Each Methuselah then burns 5 pool. Only one Ancient Influence can be played in a game.
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Only usable during a referendum, before votes and ballots are cast.
If the referendum passes and the effect of the referendum causes you to lose pool, the controller of the acting vampire loses the same amount of pool (in addition to the effects of the referendum).
Ancient Influence
[Political Action]
Successful referendum means each Methuselah may choose a ready vampire he or she controls. Each Methuselah gains an amount of pool from the blood bank equal to his or her chosen vampire's capacity. Each Methuselah then burns 5 pool. Only one Ancient Influence can be played in a game.
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13 Aug 2018 06:11 - 13 Aug 2018 06:11 #89940
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Poison Pill - Ancient Influence
Burning pool and losing pool are the same.
Last edit: 13 Aug 2018 06:11 by Ankha.
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13 Aug 2018 06:53 #89942
by Snodig
Does the acting Methuselah always burn 5, or would it be (<reacting Methiselah gained> - 5)?
Replied by Snodig on topic Poison Pill - Ancient Influence
This is undoubtedly true, but how does the math work out with a card such as Ancient Influence?Burning pool and losing pool are the same.
Does the acting Methuselah always burn 5, or would it be (<reacting Methiselah gained> - 5)?
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13 Aug 2018 07:10 - 13 Aug 2018 07:56 #89943
by Bloodartist
The card says to burn 5 pool, therefore poison pill makes you burn 5 pool. Thats my take at least. Poison pill doesn't care how much pool you gain. Its always an option for the player calling referendum to vote the refendum down him/herself. Thats what the card is for, after all, a threat.
A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
Replied by Bloodartist on topic Poison Pill - Ancient Influence
This is undoubtedly true, but how does the math work out with a card such as Ancient Influence?Burning pool and losing pool are the same.
Does the acting Methuselah always burn 5, or would it be (<reacting Methiselah gained> - 5)?
The card says to burn 5 pool, therefore poison pill makes you burn 5 pool. Thats my take at least. Poison pill doesn't care how much pool you gain. Its always an option for the player calling referendum to vote the refendum down him/herself. Thats what the card is for, after all, a threat.
A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
Last edit: 13 Aug 2018 07:56 by Bloodartist.
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13 Aug 2018 08:33 - 13 Aug 2018 08:34 #89950
by Ankha
This is why you can't withdraw even if you gain pool in the end after an Ancient Influence, or if a vampire you control loses 1 blood and somehow regains it.
Replied by Ankha on topic Poison Pill - Ancient Influence
Card text: the Methuselah gains pool, then burns 5 pool. (not: gains X-5 pool).
This is undoubtedly true, but how does the math work out with a card such as Ancient Influence?Burning pool and losing pool are the same.
Does the acting Methuselah always burn 5, or would it be (<reacting Methiselah gained> - 5)?
This is why you can't withdraw even if you gain pool in the end after an Ancient Influence, or if a vampire you control loses 1 blood and somehow regains it.
Last edit: 13 Aug 2018 08:34 by Ankha.
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