The Rack vs changing control
30 Jan 2020 09:57 - 30 Jan 2020 10:26 #98818
by Yomyael
Prince of Bonn, Germany
Replied by Yomyael on topic The Rack vs changing control
Ahoi,
first: you should post relevant card text along with the rules question, it makes it a lot easier to just look at the question and answer it, instead of first searching for the card text.
For the first question, I'm not 100% sure if this answer is correct. The card text references "the controller", from context I deduce it is the controller of the rack. So it would happen during the unlock phase. It sais "the vampire can gain 2 blood". The question in my opinion boils down to: who chooses if this can effect is used? I'd say the controller of the Rack chooses. Therefore the vampire would gain 2 blood, no matter who controls the vampire, if the controller of he rack chooses it to be so.
For the second question: Again, not 100% sure, but I assume that a vampire cannot move to the uncontrolled region of a player who is not the owner of the card (same as Ash Heap, Library, etc.). But if this implies the Capuchin is moved to his owners uncontrolled or is simply burned, I do not know.
first: you should post relevant card text along with the rules question, it makes it a lot easier to just look at the question and answer it, instead of first searching for the card text.
Rack
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Capuchin
Prince of Bonn, Germany
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30 Jan 2020 10:13 - 17 Apr 2020 14:49 #98819
by Ankha
A controls the Rack. B controls the vampire chosen by the Rack.
During A's unlock phase, B can choose to add 2 blood the chosen vampire, because the Rack reads "the chosen vampire can", not "you can" or "the controller of the Rack".
If B was controlling the Capuchin when it burned, the Capuchin goes to B's uncontrolled region.
REVERSAL : The Capuchin goes to his owner's uncontrolled region. See www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/78568-the-capuchin-burns-temporary-control?start=12#99616
Replied by Ankha on topic The Rack vs changing control
Let's say vampire has The Rack targeted at her.
Then she goes to torpor and other player plays Graverobbing at her and takes control.
How The Rack works from this moment? Does it give blood to targeted vampire regardless of player who controls vampire?
A controls the Rack. B controls the vampire chosen by the Rack.
During A's unlock phase, B can choose to add 2 blood the chosen vampire, because the Rack reads "the chosen vampire can", not "you can" or "the controller of the Rack".
Similar situation but this vampire is Capuchin. Capuchin is somehow burned.
What happens then? Does he uses his ability and returns under the control of his owner or stays under the control of recent controller in uncontrolled region?
REVERSAL : The Capuchin goes to his owner's uncontrolled region. See www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/78568-the-capuchin-burns-temporary-control?start=12#99616
Prince of Paris, France
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31 Jan 2020 13:55 - 31 Jan 2020 13:55 #98830
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic The Rack vs changing control
You return the vampire to their previous controller, and since that player has been ousted, the vampire is removed from the game.And before my next untap phase owner of this vampire is ousted, what will happen with this vampire in my next untap phase?
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15 Mar 2021 19:32 #101858
by beslin igor
Replied by beslin igor on topic The Rack vs changing control
What about Rack impulse?
For exaple A control Rack,B control vampire,i beleive A must resolve all mandatory stuff,and when pass impulse to B,B can gain from Rack,correct?
And for example if is anarch Revolt in play,and A is in one pool without anarch,A die before give chance to B gain bloods from Rack,correct?
For exaple A control Rack,B control vampire,i beleive A must resolve all mandatory stuff,and when pass impulse to B,B can gain from Rack,correct?
And for example if is anarch Revolt in play,and A is in one pool without anarch,A die before give chance to B gain bloods from Rack,correct?
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