Withdrawal deals
05 Apr 2020 21:59 #99506
by Hakuron
National Coordinator Germany
nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de
Withdrawal deals was created by Hakuron
Could we please verify that the following scenario is in accordance to the tournamanet rules:
4 player game, players A, B, C, D.
By the end of round two, A and B contest a 9-cap vampire.
By the end of round four, in addition A and B contest an 8-cap vampire.
A has no means of generating pool.
A is aware of the fact, that he will probably be ousted soon.
In addition, A can imagine that if he continues contesting the vampires until the very end, his prey will probably be ousted as well.
At the beginning of round 5, A proposes to B the following:
A would yield both contests. In return, B would withdraw, if B manages to oust C and D and if A is still in game, giving A 1 VP for his sacrifice.
Of course, if B succeeds to oust C and D in time, B is no longer bound to any deal, because they become null and void in the heads-up.
But if B wants to withdraw, he CAN do so, because afterwards he will have 2.5 VP and the game-win, the goal of the game.
(And not to forget, A would have done the best possible in the awkward game situation to maximise his VP.)
Thanks in advance!
4 player game, players A, B, C, D.
By the end of round two, A and B contest a 9-cap vampire.
By the end of round four, in addition A and B contest an 8-cap vampire.
A has no means of generating pool.
A is aware of the fact, that he will probably be ousted soon.
In addition, A can imagine that if he continues contesting the vampires until the very end, his prey will probably be ousted as well.
At the beginning of round 5, A proposes to B the following:
A would yield both contests. In return, B would withdraw, if B manages to oust C and D and if A is still in game, giving A 1 VP for his sacrifice.
Of course, if B succeeds to oust C and D in time, B is no longer bound to any deal, because they become null and void in the heads-up.
But if B wants to withdraw, he CAN do so, because afterwards he will have 2.5 VP and the game-win, the goal of the game.
(And not to forget, A would have done the best possible in the awkward game situation to maximise his VP.)
Thanks in advance!
National Coordinator Germany
nc [dot] germany [at] magenta [dot] de
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06 Apr 2020 14:53 #99509
by Ankha
In the duel, A must maximize his VPs. This includes letting B withdraw if A can't score more than 1 vp.
Replied by Ankha on topic Withdrawal deals
Since withdrawing would give B the GW once C and D are ousted, it is valid from B's point of view.Could we please verify that the following scenario is in accordance to the tournamanet rules:
4 player game, players A, B, C, D.
By the end of round two, A and B contest a 9-cap vampire.
By the end of round four, in addition A and B contest an 8-cap vampire.
A has no means of generating pool.
A is aware of the fact, that he will probably be ousted soon.
In addition, A can imagine that if he continues contesting the vampires until the very end, his prey will probably be ousted as well.
At the beginning of round 5, A proposes to B the following:
A would yield both contests. In return, B would withdraw, if B manages to oust C and D and if A is still in game, giving A 1 VP for his sacrifice.
Of course, if B succeeds to oust C and D in time, B is no longer bound to any deal, because they become null and void in the heads-up.
But if B wants to withdraw, he CAN do so, because afterwards he will have 2.5 VP and the game-win, the goal of the game.
(And not to forget, A would have done the best possible in the awkward game situation to maximise his VP.)
Thanks in advance!
In the duel, A must maximize his VPs. This includes letting B withdraw if A can't score more than 1 vp.
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Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director
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13 Sep 2020 16:08 #100769
by Lech
Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
Replied by Lech on topic Withdrawal deals
No, he isn't. But on the other hand, with 2vp he could let him have his point.
Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
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