Reality - Rescue from torpor
19 Jun 2020 14:02 #100142
by Ankha
- I mostly answer on Facebook on my phone, which is not convenient to give lengthy answers
- history is kept on the forum, contrary to Facebook where it's lost pretty quickly.
Replied by Ankha on topic Reality - Rescue from torpor
Not at all, I said that I prefered to answer on the forum for two reasons:When this has been pointed out to him, he then threatened to throw his toys out of the pram and refuse to provide rulings in the official V:EKN (i.e. BCP) Facebook group where the rules specifically say you can ask rules questions.
- I mostly answer on Facebook on my phone, which is not convenient to give lengthy answers
- history is kept on the forum, contrary to Facebook where it's lost pretty quickly.
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19 Jun 2020 14:09 #100143
by jamesatzephyr
"Preferring to answer on the forum" is absolutely not what you said. You started with:
"Perhaps I should stop answering rule questions on Facebook"
That is not the same as preferring one forum to another, it is threatening to stop using the Facebook forum entirely.
Please don't pretend you didn't write that, when you did.
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Reality - Rescue from torpor
Not at all, I said that I prefered to answer on the forum for two reasons:
- I mostly answer on Facebook on my phone, which is not convenient to give lengthy answers
- history is kept on the forum, contrary to Facebook where it's lost pretty quickly.
"Preferring to answer on the forum" is absolutely not what you said. You started with:
"Perhaps I should stop answering rule questions on Facebook"
That is not the same as preferring one forum to another, it is threatening to stop using the Facebook forum entirely.
Please don't pretend you didn't write that, when you did.
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19 Jun 2020 14:21 - 19 Jun 2020 14:23 #100145
by Ankha
Complete quote:
Perhaps I should stop answering rule questions on Facebook as I use it mostly on my phone (not a great device for lengthy explanation) and all rulings or explanations given there are lost in a few days (contrary to questions to the forum or the newsgroup, though the latest is not active anymore).
What I'll do from now on: create a topic on the VEKN forum to answer the question, and afterwards link that answer to the facebook topic.
Replied by Ankha on topic Reality - Rescue from torpor
Not at all, I said that I prefered to answer on the forum for two reasons:
- I mostly answer on Facebook on my phone, which is not convenient to give lengthy answers
- history is kept on the forum, contrary to Facebook where it's lost pretty quickly.
"Preferring to answer on the forum" is absolutely not what you said. You started with:
"Perhaps I should stop answering rule questions on Facebook"
That is not the same as preferring one forum to another, it is threatening to stop using the Facebook forum entirely.
Please don't pretend you didn't write that, when you did.
Complete quote:
Perhaps I should stop answering rule questions on Facebook as I use it mostly on my phone (not a great device for lengthy explanation) and all rulings or explanations given there are lost in a few days (contrary to questions to the forum or the newsgroup, though the latest is not active anymore).
What I'll do from now on: create a topic on the VEKN forum to answer the question, and afterwards link that answer to the facebook topic.
Last edit: 19 Jun 2020 14:23 by Ankha.
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19 Jun 2020 14:22 #100146
by Sambomb
TL;DR
A vampire in torpor with
Reality could be rescued?
Only by other vampires of the same controller.
Archbishop of Itaocara
Prince ID #510
Replied by Sambomb on topic Reality - Rescue from torpor
Official card text is: [chi]
Put Reality on a younger vampire. The vampire with this card cannot be the target of
actions, cannot act (except to burn this card), cannot block and cannot cast votes or ballots. That vampire can burn Reality as a +1 stealth action.
The question is about: "is rescuing my own vampire with Reality possible, or is it considered to be aaction"?
I answered hastily: Reality forbids actions that are directed, against this vampire. In that case,doesn’t mean “typically directed” (so it cannot be removed) the same way than Sonar doesn’t work against actions that are not directed.
Sonar: [pro] +1 intercept, only usable against aaction.
So Reality is basically equivalent to Secure Haven in that matter “This minion cannot be the target of other Methuselahs' actions.” since the action must be taken by another Methuselah to make it directed when it targets a vampire you control.
Back to the question:
- is rescuing my own vampire with Reality possible? => yes, since it’s not directed (and Reality cares about whether it’s directed or not)
- or is it considered to be a
action => no, it’s undirected, since you control the target of the action.
TL;DR
A vampire in torpor with

Only by other vampires of the same controller.
Archbishop of Itaocara
Prince ID #510
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19 Jun 2020 14:34 #100147
by jamesatzephyr
Where, as just demonstrated, you didn't even bother to explain what the answer was.
Why are people using an official BCP channel for asking rules questions treated as second class citizens? Has this stance been agreed by BCP? Why?
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Reality - Rescue from torpor
What I'll do from now on: create a topic on the VEKN forum to answer the question, and afterwards link that answer to the facebook topic.
Where, as just demonstrated, you didn't even bother to explain what the answer was.
Why are people using an official BCP channel for asking rules questions treated as second class citizens? Has this stance been agreed by BCP? Why?
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19 Jun 2020 14:36 #100148
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Hi BCP, why is your Rules Director so actively hostile to answering rules questions from players in an official, BCP-run forum? Why do you have that forum, including for asking rules questions, if (presumably official) BCP policy is now to _not even post the answers there_. Please could you explain?
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