Revelation of Wrath
25 Sep 2020 07:31 #100819
by lip
Revelation of Wrath was created by lip
Found no actual ruling on this one, and had a disagreement in a game yesterday:
- Does Revelation of Wrath take environmental damage into account (for example do the damage from Carrion Crows count as damage "the opposing minion inflicted") ?
- Does Revelation of Wrath allow to take control of the opposing minion if it places enough corruption counters on it ?
I found no Rules Director confirmation on either of them.
Thanks in advance !
NB: Thanks for refraining to answer without a Rules Director ruling - opinions have already been voiced on the subject here and here , but neither Pascal nor Ankha were Rules Director at the time of these posts.
- Does Revelation of Wrath take environmental damage into account (for example do the damage from Carrion Crows count as damage "the opposing minion inflicted") ?
- Does Revelation of Wrath allow to take control of the opposing minion if it places enough corruption counters on it ?
I found no Rules Director confirmation on either of them.
Thanks in advance !
NB: Thanks for refraining to answer without a Rules Director ruling - opinions have already been voiced on the subject here and here , but neither Pascal nor Ankha were Rules Director at the time of these posts.
Revelation of Wrath
Only usable at the end of a round in which the opposing minion inflicted 2 or more damage or any aggravated damage (even if it was prevented). Put a corruption counter on the opposing minion. A vampire can play only one Revelation of Wrath each round.
As above, and place an additional corruption counter if the opposing minion inflicted 3 or more damage or 2 or more aggravated damage this round.
Carrion Crows
The opposing minion takes 1R environmental damage each round this combat during normal strike resolution.
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25 Sep 2020 08:51 #100820
by Ankha
"Environmental damage: Any damage not inflicted by a minion either as a strike, or by an explicit effect (“this minion inflicts...”) is environmental. Environmental damage can have no source (such as the damage inflicted by a Carrion Crows) or a non-minion source
(such as the damage inflicted by a retainer)."
Replied by Ankha on topic Revelation of Wrath
No. Environmental damage is not inflicted by the minion, per definition.- Does Revelation of Wrath take environmental damage into account (for example do the damage from Carrion Crows count as damage "the opposing minion inflicted") ?
"Environmental damage: Any damage not inflicted by a minion either as a strike, or by an explicit effect (“this minion inflicts...”) is environmental. Environmental damage can have no source (such as the damage inflicted by a Carrion Crows) or a non-minion source
(such as the damage inflicted by a retainer)."
No, it requires explicit cardtext to do so.- Does Revelation of Wrath allow to take control of the opposing minion if it places enough corruption counters on it ?
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26 Sep 2020 05:59 - 26 Sep 2020 06:00 #100822
by beslin igor
Replied by beslin igor on topic Revelation of Wrath
Can vampire play Revelation of Wrath even if him go torpor or be burned after strike resolve?
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26 Sep 2020 08:25 - 22 Nov 2020 11:38 #100824
by Ankha
EDIT: for clarity, a vampire who is "being burned" can play Revelation of Wrath at the end of the round, since it lacks the "Not usable by a vampire being burned or going to torpor." clause.
Replied by Ankha on topic Revelation of Wrath
Yes.Can vampire play Revelation of Wrath even if him go torpor
A vampire who is no longer in play cannot play cards.or be burned after strike resolve?
EDIT: for clarity, a vampire who is "being burned" can play Revelation of Wrath at the end of the round, since it lacks the "Not usable by a vampire being burned or going to torpor." clause.
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22 Nov 2020 10:10 #101143
by beslin igor
I want to compare this answer with LSJ answer in this page: groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/Z9QNJ6SPIJM/m/g0uHQFp6G_QJ?pli=1
" > 2/ If vampire A (1 blood, 1 strength) enters combat with ally B (1 life) ; A
> declares hand strike, B strikes for 3 agg (say, Ivory Bow+Target Vitals),
> can A still play OoB even though A is being burned ?
Yes, if the ally burns. "
So how vampire if he being burned by ally strike can play Orgy of Blood? or is maybe LSJ answer made by some old rules?
Replied by beslin igor on topic Revelation of Wrath
Yes.Can vampire play Revelation of Wrath even if him go torpor
A vampire who is no longer in play cannot play cards.or be burned after strike resolve?
I want to compare this answer with LSJ answer in this page: groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/Z9QNJ6SPIJM/m/g0uHQFp6G_QJ?pli=1
" > 2/ If vampire A (1 blood, 1 strength) enters combat with ally B (1 life) ; A
> declares hand strike, B strikes for 3 agg (say, Ivory Bow+Target Vitals),
> can A still play OoB even though A is being burned ?
Yes, if the ally burns. "
So how vampire if he being burned by ally strike can play Orgy of Blood? or is maybe LSJ answer made by some old rules?
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