Play/Steal Rack without ready vampire		
	
	
			
	
						19 Jan 2021 22:00				#101469
		by beslin igor
	
	
		
			
	
			
			 		
													
		
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				The Rack
Unique location.
As this card is played or the controller of this card changes, the controller chooses a ready vampire they control. During the controller's unlock phase, the chosen vampire can gain 2 blood. A vampire controlled by another Methuselah can steal this location as a Ⓓ action.
Can you play or steal Rack if you have no ready vampire?
							
					Unique location.
As this card is played or the controller of this card changes, the controller chooses a ready vampire they control. During the controller's unlock phase, the chosen vampire can gain 2 blood. A vampire controlled by another Methuselah can steal this location as a Ⓓ action.
Can you play or steal Rack if you have no ready vampire?
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						20 Jan 2021 03:31		 -  20 Jan 2021 03:34		#101470
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No, you can’t play cards/trigger effects in play which you don’t meet the requirement for... in this case there needs to be a ready vampire to target.
					
	
	
			 		
													
		
	
				Replied by inm8 on topic Play/Steal Rack without ready vampire			
			
Can you play or steal Rack if you have no ready vampire?
No, you can’t play cards/trigger effects in play which you don’t meet the requirement for... in this case there needs to be a ready vampire to target.
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						20 Jan 2021 07:29		 -  20 Jan 2021 07:30		#101471
		by Timo
	
	
		
			
	
	
			 		
													
		
	
				Replied by Timo on topic Play/Steal Rack without ready vampire			
			
				And I would note that it would be difficult to steal the rack without a ready vampire ^^
Actually, I see 2 ways to do it ^^ (well... let's say 2 variations of the same thing ^^)
					Actually, I see 2 ways to do it ^^ (well... let's say 2 variations of the same thing ^^)
		Last edit: 20 Jan 2021 07:30  by Timo.			
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						20 Jan 2021 15:33		 -  20 Jan 2021 15:33		#101474
		by lip
	
	
		
			
	
	
			 		
													
		
	
				Replied by lip on topic Play/Steal Rack without ready vampire			
			
				I found no direct ruling on that. This post indicates that indeed you cannot: www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/76898-grotesque-requirements#89697			
					
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						20 Jan 2021 21:19				#101475
		by kschaefer
	
	
		
			
	
			
			 		
													
		
	
				Replied by kschaefer on topic Play/Steal Rack without ready vampire			
			
				You have to have a ready vampire to take the action to steal The Rack.
Any effects that would send the vampire to torpor or burn them (Daring the Dawn, Day Operation) as part of the action occur after the action is resolved and part of that resolution would be targeting a ready vampire. I can't see a case where this problem would even come up.
					Any effects that would send the vampire to torpor or burn them (Daring the Dawn, Day Operation) as part of the action occur after the action is resolved and part of that resolution would be targeting a ready vampire. I can't see a case where this problem would even come up.
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						20 Jan 2021 22:06				#101476
		by beslin igor
	
	
		
			
	
			
			 		
													
		
				Replied by beslin igor on topic Play/Steal Rack without ready vampire			
			
				Lip actually Ankha in you link get answer about Rack,so you cannot play it without ready vampire:
							
					Thanks for pointing out the interaction with the new rule. For now, you cannot "play" the Grotesque if you cannot fulfill the choice (that is a location not already chosen by another Grotesque). It is similar to The Rack when you control no ready vampire.
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