Sociopath and Code of Samiel : definition of "in combat"
Name: Code of Samiel
[HttB:R/B1]
Cardtype: Master
Clan: Salubri antitribu
Cost: 2 pool
Burn Option
Unique.
Put this card in play. During your unlock phase, a Salubri antitribu you control can gain 1 blood. If a Salubri antitribu burns a ready vampire or sends a vampire to torpor in combat or as aaction, that Salubri antitribu can unlock after the end of the minion phase.
Artist: Peter Bergting
Name: Sociopath
[BH:C/PTr2]
Cardtype: Master
Master: archetype.
Put this card on a Sabbat vampire you control. Once per turn, when this vampire remains ready and burns a minion in combat or sends a vampire to torpor in combat, he or she gains 1 blood from the blood bank. A vampire can have only one archetype.
Artist: Fred Harper
Ok here are the card texts. Now, what is the definition of "in combat" for these cards. Does it means "during combat" or does it means "due to a combat card or a combat effect"
I would think it is the first one but it could be argued that a Catatonic Fear triggers these cards.
What seals the deal IMO is a card like Cobra Fangs.
A confirmation ?
Name: Catatonic Fear
[Sabbat:U, SW:U, FN:PS, CE:PTo, LoB:PI2, Third:U]
Cardtype: Combat
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Presence
Strike: combat ends.
As above, and inflict 1 damage to the opposing minion once combat ends if the range is close.
Artist: Clint Langley
Name: Cobra Fangs
[LotN:R, POD:DTC]
Cardtype: Combat
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Serpentis
[ser] Strike: hand strike. If any damage from this strike is successfully inflicted on an opposing ally, burn that ally after action resolution.
[SER] As above, and if any damage from this strike is successfully inflicted on an opposing vampire, the opposing vampire goes to torpor during their next unlock phase.
Artist: Mike Chaney
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No, it's inflicted after the combat ends. (groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/KireUeOYY3c/m/nb81oLVJRyMJ) You couldn't play Disarm thanks to it for instance.Isn’t the damage from Catatonic Fear done in the step F “Combat Ends” (from the Detailed Play Summary) which is still part of the combat....meaning that if that damage sent a vampire to torpor it has then happened "in combat"?
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It’s because of what and how the word “once” means and how it is used...as a non-native english speaker I learned something today....would have been easier for us if “after” was used instead of “once”.
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It will be the case once the card is reprinted (but they mean the same thing indeed).Guess I found the answer on my own to my question ... [RTR 19970630] states that the damage is inflicted after combat ends.
It’s because of what and how the word “once” means and how it is used...as a non-native english speaker I learned something today....would have been easier for us if “after” was used instead of “once”.
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