file Baltimore purge questions

20 Oct 2021 06:26 - 20 Oct 2021 06:27 #103606 by Bloodartist
Stanislava has on her baltimore purge, renewed vigor (for), and fame. We are in Stani players unlock phase, and purge is about to trigger.

Question: Can Stani player order the effects so that he only takes 3 pool damage from fame and not 4?

ie.
Purge triggers, torporizes Stani;
Fame triggers, Stani player takes 3 pool damage;
Renewed vigor is used, bringing Stanislava back to ready.
Fame doesn't find itself in torpor, so 1 pool doesn't have to be burned?

Name: Baltimore Purge
[CE:U, POD:DTC]
Cardtype: Action
Requires a vampire.
If this vampire is Ravnos, this is a +1 stealth action. Put this card on this vampire. During your unlock phase, burn this card and each other Methuselah chooses a ready vampire they control who is not older than this vampire; if you control a ready Lasombra, you choose the vampires instead; this vampire and the chosen vampires go to torpor.
Artist: William O'Connor

Name: Renewed Vigor
[BL:C2, LoB:C]
Cardtype: Action
Cost: 1 blood
Discipline: Obeah/Fortitude
+1 stealth action.
[for] Put this card on this acting vampire. During your unlock phase, if this vampire is in torpor, you can burn this card to move him or her to your ready region. A vampire can have only one Renewed Vigor.
[obe] Move a vampire in torpor to his controller's ready region, or restore an ally or retainer to his or her starting life (with life counters from the blood bank).
[OBE] Choose any other vampire. That vampire gains enough blood from the blood bank to reach full capacity.
Artist: Becky Cloonan

Name: Fame
[Jyhad:U, VTES:U, SW:PB, CE:PB, Anarchs:PG, BH:PN2, KMW:PAl, Third:PTz, KoT:U/PT2, HttB:PGar/PSal, SP:DoF1/PwN1, FB:PN1, V5:PN1]
Cardtype: Master
Unique.
Put this card on a ready vampire. The controller of this vampire burns 3 pool after this vampire goes to torpor. During each Methuselah's unlock phase, if this vampire is in torpor, that Methuselah burns 1 pool.
Artist: Kaja Foglio; Brian LeBlanc


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20 Oct 2021 08:38 #103608 by inm8
Replied by inm8 on topic Baltimore purge questions

Stanislava has on her baltimore purge, renewed vigor (for), and fame. We are in Stani players unlock phase, and purge is about to trigger.

Question: Can Stani player order the effects so that he only takes 3 pool damage from fame and not 4?

ie.
Purge triggers, torporizes Stani;
Fame triggers, Stani player takes 3 pool damage;
Renewed vigor is used, bringing Stanislava back to ready.
Fame doesn't find itself in torpor, so 1 pool doesn't have to be burned?


You can order the effects as they all happen in the same time window "During the unlock", meaning you can order the effects to cause you no more than the 3 pool loss from Fame.

Rulebook says:
You start your turn with your unlock phase. At the beginning of your unlock phase, you must unlock all of your cards. Any cards or effects that require or allow you to do something during your unlock phase take effect after you have unlocked your cards. You may choose the order in which these effects take place. Along with effects generated by cards, there are other effects that are resolved during the unlock phase:

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20 Oct 2021 08:38 #103609 by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Baltimore purge questions

Stanislava has on her baltimore purge, renewed vigor (for), and fame. We are in Stani players unlock phase, and purge is about to trigger.

Question: Can Stani player order the effects so that he only takes 3 pool damage from fame and not 4?

ie.
Purge triggers, torporizes Stani;
Fame triggers, Stani player takes 3 pool damage;
Renewed vigor is used, bringing Stanislava back to ready.
Fame doesn't find itself in torpor, so 1 pool doesn't have to be burned?

Yes.

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