Aline Gädeke
08 Aug 2022 12:40 #105904
by inm8
Aline Gädeke was created by inm8
Can Aline Gädeke use her special to unlock after another non-anarch vampire successfully performs the "become anarch" action?
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Brujah
Group: 6
Capacity: 7
Discipline: cel POT PRE
Anarch Baron of Mannheim: Once each turn, Aline can burn 1 blood to unlock after another Anarch you control performs a successful action.
Artist: Ken Meyer, Jr.
◼ Who can become Anarch: Any ready untitled non-Anarch vampire.
◼ Cost: 2 blood, or 1 blood if the controller controls at least 1 other ready Anarch.
◼ Default target: None. Undirected action.
◼ Default stealth: +1 stealth.
◼ Effect: If the action is successful, the acting vampire is now of the Anarch sect.
Aline Gädeke
Cardtype: Vampire
Clan: Brujah
Group: 6
Capacity: 7
Discipline: cel POT PRE
Anarch Baron of Mannheim: Once each turn, Aline can burn 1 blood to unlock after another Anarch you control performs a successful action.
Artist: Ken Meyer, Jr.
Become Anarch
◼ Who can become Anarch: Any ready untitled non-Anarch vampire.
◼ Cost: 2 blood, or 1 blood if the controller controls at least 1 other ready Anarch.
◼ Default target: None. Undirected action.
◼ Default stealth: +1 stealth.
◼ Effect: If the action is successful, the acting vampire is now of the Anarch sect.
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08 Aug 2022 12:57 - 08 Aug 2022 12:58 #105906
by Legion
Replied by Legion on topic Aline Gädeke
Didn't you just answered on your question? 'another non-anarch vampire successfully performs the "become anarch" action'
She cannot.
She cannot.
Last edit: 08 Aug 2022 12:58 by Legion.
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08 Aug 2022 13:06 #105907
by kschaefer
Replied by kschaefer on topic Aline Gädeke
Aline's special checks the sect of the acting vampire at the resolution of the action.
At the resolution of the become-Anarch, cardless action the vampire is an Anarch, who completed a successful action. She can use her special.
Similarly, if an Anarch vampire equips with Write of Acceptance, at resolution that vampire is no longer an Anarch and she cannot use her special.
At the resolution of the become-Anarch, cardless action the vampire is an Anarch, who completed a successful action. She can use her special.
Similarly, if an Anarch vampire equips with Write of Acceptance, at resolution that vampire is no longer an Anarch and she cannot use her special.
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08 Aug 2022 13:47 - 09 Aug 2022 05:46 #105908
by inm8
Replied by inm8 on topic Aline Gädeke
The key question and precedent setter here is if an action is considered performed by a vampire with the sect/clan belonging that they had at the beginning or the end of the action (or potentially both).
This ruling would affect Aline Gädeke´s special in regards to both actions making a vampire Anarch and actions making a vampire non-Anarch
Ankha´s decision and explanation will be interesting.
This ruling would affect Aline Gädeke´s special in regards to both actions making a vampire Anarch and actions making a vampire non-Anarch
Ankha´s decision and explanation will be interesting.
Last edit: 09 Aug 2022 05:46 by inm8.
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09 Aug 2022 14:43 #105918
by KoRneeshon
Replied by KoRneeshon on topic Aline Gädeke
My bet is she can't.
Non-anarchs perform this action and they become anarchs if this action is successful.
Non-anarchs perform this action and they become anarchs if this action is successful.
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09 Aug 2022 16:01 #105919
by charmer
Replied by charmer on topic Aline Gädeke
That is all true but maybe Aline does not care, because she says "after". The action ends, Aline takes a look and sees an Anarch that performed a successful action. Voila, now she can pay 1 blood to unlock, why not...
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