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Ally/Imbued recruits another ally with the help of cost reduction
17 Oct 2022 21:21 #106588
by inm8
A question that came up in the discord (which I couldn't find an explicit ruling for)
Can an ally recruit another blood costing ally (with no requirements to be recruited) with the help of cost reducing cards like The Shard, London, Sunset Strip, Hollywood, or Powerbase: Tshwane (as the action is announced) if the cost is reduced to 0 or less?
Cardtype: Master
Cost: 2 pool
Unique location.
If you have the Edge, you can lock this card to reduce the cost of a card you play by 2 blood or pool. Vampires can steal this location as a
action; Ventrue
get +1 stealth during that action.
Cardtype: Master
Cost: 1 pool
Master: unique location.
Lock to give all vampires +1 stealth on hunt actions until your next unlock phase. Lock to reduce the cost to recruit a mortal ally or employ a mortal retainer by 1 blood or pool (but never less than 0 blood or pool).
Cardtype: Master
Master: unique location. Requires a ready Laibon.
Lock this location to reduce the cost of a card you play by 1 pool (this location is not locked if that card is canceled as it is played). Any Laibon may steal this location for his or her controller as a
action.
Can an ally recruit another blood costing ally (with no requirements to be recruited) with the help of cost reducing cards like The Shard, London, Sunset Strip, Hollywood, or Powerbase: Tshwane (as the action is announced) if the cost is reduced to 0 or less?
The Shard, London
Cardtype: Master
Cost: 2 pool
Unique location.
If you have the Edge, you can lock this card to reduce the cost of a card you play by 2 blood or pool. Vampires can steal this location as a


Sunset Strip, Hollywood
Cardtype: Master
Cost: 1 pool
Master: unique location.
Lock to give all vampires +1 stealth on hunt actions until your next unlock phase. Lock to reduce the cost to recruit a mortal ally or employ a mortal retainer by 1 blood or pool (but never less than 0 blood or pool).
Powerbase: Tshwane
Cardtype: Master
Master: unique location. Requires a ready Laibon.
Lock this location to reduce the cost of a card you play by 1 pool (this location is not locked if that card is canceled as it is played). Any Laibon may steal this location for his or her controller as a

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18 Oct 2022 07:32 - 18 Oct 2022 07:33 #106589
by Bloodartist
A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
Replied by Bloodartist on topic Ally/Imbued recruits another ally with the help of cost reduction
Short answer: yes.
(assuming the ally being recruited doesn't have any other requirements that the ally cannot fulfill)
ps. Don't forget The Line.
(assuming the ally being recruited doesn't have any other requirements that the ally cannot fulfill)
ps. Don't forget The Line.
A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
Last edit: 18 Oct 2022 07:33 by Bloodartist.
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18 Oct 2022 09:23 - 18 Oct 2022 09:23 #106590
by Ankha
A close ruling about "playing a card you cannot normally afford" => groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/i3Ugq5AQWFI/m/TxPoXM78hFAJ
Replied by Ankha on topic Ally/Imbued recruits another ally with the help of cost reduction
Correct.Short answer: yes.
(assuming the ally being recruited doesn't have any other requirements that the ally cannot fulfill)
ps. Don't forget The Line.
A close ruling about "playing a card you cannot normally afford" => groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/i3Ugq5AQWFI/m/TxPoXM78hFAJ
Last edit: 18 Oct 2022 09:23 by Ankha.
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18 Oct 2022 11:36 - 18 Oct 2022 11:39 #106592
by inm8
I intentionally left The Line out as it cannot be used by an ally or imbued when recruiting another ally.
Cardtype: Master
Unique location.
Lock to reduce the cost of an action card played by a vampire you control by 1 blood (this location is not locked if that card is canceled as it is played). Any vampire can steal this location as a
action.
Replied by inm8 on topic Ally/Imbued recruits another ally with the help of cost reduction
ps. Don't forget The Line.
I intentionally left The Line out as it cannot be used by an ally or imbued when recruiting another ally.
The Line
Cardtype: Master
Unique location.
Lock to reduce the cost of an action card played by a vampire you control by 1 blood (this location is not locked if that card is canceled as it is played). Any vampire can steal this location as a

Last edit: 18 Oct 2022 11:39 by inm8.
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18 Oct 2022 17:33 #106593
by Hobbesgoblin
it cant even be used when an ally acts "as a vampire"
www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/78671-can-an-ally-with-play-as-a-vampire-use-the-line-to-reduce-action-costs#100015
Replied by Hobbesgoblin on topic Ally/Imbued recruits another ally with the help of cost reduction
ps. Don't forget The Line.
I intentionally left The Line out as it cannot be used by an ally or imbued when recruiting another ally.
The Line
Cardtype: Master
Unique location.
Lock to reduce the cost of an action card played by a vampire you control by 1 blood (this location is not locked if that card is canceled as it is played). Any vampire can steal this location as aaction.
it cant even be used when an ally acts "as a vampire"
www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/78671-can-an-ally-with-play-as-a-vampire-use-the-line-to-reduce-action-costs#100015
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