file Do not replace - Rule question

27 Dec 2023 15:47 #110192 by mipopo3
Hi all,

I have a question:
On the board, I got Hagar Stone:
Sabbat. Black Hand: While Hagar is ready, you have +1 hand size. While Hagar is unlocked, do not replace cards you play on your turn until Hagar locks or your turn ends.

And I play Ashur Tablets number 3.

I do not replace this card, but what happens when I pull the card from the ash heap to my hand?
-"move one of the chosen cards to your hand and shuffle the others in your library."-

Do I discard down to my hand size that is 7(8-1 from Hagard "do not replace text") or is this card in my hand number 8?

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27 Dec 2023 21:53 #110196 by inm8
Replied by inm8 on topic Do not replace - Rule question

Hi all,

I have a question:
On the board, I got Hagar Stone:
Sabbat. Black Hand: While Hagar is ready, you have +1 hand size. While Hagar is unlocked, do not replace cards you play on your turn until Hagar locks or your turn ends.

And I play Ashur Tablets number 3.

I do not replace this card, but what happens when I pull the card from the ash heap to my hand?
-"move one of the chosen cards to your hand and shuffle the others in your library."-

Do I discard down to my hand size that is 7(8-1 from Hagard "do not replace text") or is this card in my hand number 8?


You discard down to 7, “do not replace” effects also reduces your hand size for the duration of the effect

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29 Dec 2023 15:04 #110218 by DavidR

Hi all,

I have a question:
On the board, I got Hagar Stone:
Sabbat. Black Hand: While Hagar is ready, you have +1 hand size. While Hagar is unlocked, do not replace cards you play on your turn until Hagar locks or your turn ends.

And I play Ashur Tablets number 3.

hand size 8, 7 cards in hand after played the third ashur

I do not replace this card, but what happens when I pull the card from the ash heap to my hand?
-"move one of the chosen cards to your hand and shuffle the others in your library."-

Do I discard down to my hand size that is 7(8-1 from Hagard "do not replace text") or is this card in my hand number 8?

your hand size is 8, you have 7 cards so have space for the card the effect of ashurs say to put on your hand, you are no replacing a card

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29 Dec 2023 15:17 #110220 by mipopo3
That is what I was thinking,

But:
Page of the rulebook — 7 —

Drawing Cards
Whenever you play a card from your hand,
you draw another from your library to
replace it (unless card text says otherwise).
If your library is empty, then you do not
draw to replenish your hand, but you do
continue to play. The number of cards in
your hand should always match your hand
size (cards that are replaced later reduce
your hand size for the duration of the effect).
The starting default hand size is seven cards
in hand. Whenever an effect changes your
hand size or adds or removes cards from your
hand, immediately discard down to or draw
up to match your hand size.
and
Page of the rules — 49 —
Mirror Walk
Not replacing the card works the same way
as if it was counting against your hand size:
if you had a hand size of 7 before playing
the card, you now have a hand size of 6 until
your discard phase.

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29 Dec 2023 15:21 #110221 by DavidR
humm true, so get the card and need to discard downto temporary hand size, feel strange but ok

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29 Dec 2023 19:56 #110227 by Ankha

Hi all,

I have a question:
On the board, I got Hagar Stone:
Sabbat. Black Hand: While Hagar is ready, you have +1 hand size. While Hagar is unlocked, do not replace cards you play on your turn until Hagar locks or your turn ends.

And I play Ashur Tablets number 3.

I do not replace this card, but what happens when I pull the card from the ash heap to my hand?
-"move one of the chosen cards to your hand and shuffle the others in your library."-

Do I discard down to my hand size that is 7(8-1 from Hagard "do not replace text") or is this card in my hand number 8?


You discard down to 7, “do not replace” effects also reduces your hand size for the duration of the effect

Correct.

humm true, so get the card and need to discard downto temporary hand size, feel strange but ok

Yes.

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