file Concoction of Vitality and timming after completion and action is announced

14 Jan 2024 18:57 #110347 by Ankha

Thanks Ankha, although I would have appreciated being answered directly.

In that case this sentence

Cards and abilities that are usable only after a successful action are used after the action is completed, including any oustings. [RTR 19970630]


should be corrected in this source webpage

www.vekn.net/general-rulings

That clearly sets that "after successful/unsuccessful" are played after the action was complete.

Done.

Also, I had the idea that clearly that kind of actions modifiers are played out of the action and that is why clearly says "after successful..."

No. "Action" modifiers are played during an action to modify that action, not out of the action.

I think there was a situation where this was relevant. That you couldn't play a regular action modifier to cancel an "after resolution" reaction card played. The same, a reaction card against a modifier card played "after successful".

Cancelling cards is something very specific, I'm not sure what you are talking about.

Also, if I am not on a mistake, you can't play regular action modifiers after playing an "after successful" card because you are no longer in an action.

Rulebook: "Action modifier cards: The acting minion can play these cards to modify their action at any time before action resolution."

After the action has resolved, the action is not ended yet. Some action modifiers are played after action resolution (but still during the action), for instance Freak Drive:

Only usable after action resolution.
[for] Only usable if the action was successful. Unlock this vampire.
[FOR] Only usable if the action was blocked. Unlock this vampire.

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15 Jan 2024 08:11 #110354 by Coyote

Cards and abilities that are usable only after a successful action are used after the action is completed, including any oustings. [RTR 19970630]

Done.


Thanks. Trying to pass the judge exam it is, sometimes, a pain with some inaccurate info from the webpages about rules. Also, the detailed play summary webpage should have a cleanup.

www.vekn.net/detailed-play-summary

Also, if I am not on a mistake, you can't play regular action modifiers after playing an "after successful" card because you are no longer in an action.

Rulebook: "Action modifier cards: The acting minion can play these cards to modify their action at any time before action resolution."


Thanks, I missed the "before action resolution" part. That clears it.

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