"For each ... do something" should be resolved as a whole and Business Pressure

Ankha wrote:

Ankha wrote:

lip wrote:

INA, but I'd say you cannot end your unlock phase or pass the impulse if you control a minion you haven't locked or burned a card for. So if you get a minion back from contest or a Legionnaire back from the Ash Heap, you must either lock them or burn a card.

Correct. If you gain control of an ally during your unlock phase, you have to either discard a card or lock that minion at some point during your unlock phase.

"For each ... do something" should be resolved as a whole, and only once. This means that when you decide to resolve this effect, you consider the minions in play at that moment. This is a REVERSAL of the ruling above.

This makes it consistent with other "For each ... do something effects" (eg. Smiling Jack) and effects whose magnitude depends on "X, where X is..." (eg. Constant Revolution). They are resolved once, as a whole (in fact, those two syntaxes are strictly equivalent).

More generally, effects in VTES cannot be interrupted during resolution*, for instance you cannot burn Jake Washington when resolving the burn blood effect of Smiling Jack, or use a Vagabond Mystic to save an ally with 2 life taking 2 damage.

* as usual, cards can create some exceptions, such as Psyche! vs Rötschreck

NB: Conditional effects (eg. Anarch Revolt) are different as they cannot be resolved if the condition is not met.

Name: Nightmares upon Nightmares
[Gehenna:R, EoG:1]
Cardtype: Event
Gehenna. Do not replace until your next discard phase.
During each Methuselah's unlock phase, for each minion they control, they lock that minion unless they discard a card; cards discarded this way are not replaced until the master phase. Mortal allies and vampires with capacity greater than the number of Gehenna events in play ignore this effect.


Name: Smiling Jack, The Anarch
[Jyhad:R, VTES:R, CE:R, Third:PTz, KoT:R, SP:DoF1, V5:PN1, V5A:PG1, NB2:PG1]
Cardtype: Master
Unique.
Put this card in play. During your unlock phase, move 1 counter from your pool to this card. During each other Methuselah's unlock phase, for each counter on this card, that Methuselah burns 1 pool or burns 1 blood from a vampire they control. Vampires can burn this card as a action.

Name: Constant Revolution
[TR:R, V5A:PG2, V5C:PTz1]
Cardtype: Action
+1 stealth action. Requires an Anarch. Unique.
Put this card in play with 1 counter. During your unlock phase, add 1 counter to this card. During each other Methuselah's unlock phase, that Methuselah burns X pool and/or cards at random from their hand, where X is the number of counters on this card. Vampires can burn this card as a action that costs 1 pool.