Queued combats
13 Jun 2025 05:37 - 13 Jun 2025 14:56 #114683
by Ankha
Queued combats was created by Ankha
From: www.blackchantry.com/2025/06/12/new-sabbat-rules-terms-and-errata/
Queue a combat: set up a future combat during the resolution of an action.
Q: If a combat is "queued" by Hedonism and the action is blocked, when is it possible to play Cats' Guidance (or Truth in Darkness)?
A: The queued combat occurs right after the combat induced by the block. Cats' Guidance can be played once all combats are over.
Q: Let's assume there is no combat queued. The combat induced by a block ends, and Psyche! is played to start a new combat, can I play Cats' Guidance before the new combat?
A: No. The combat started by Psyche! uses the same queue of combats. So, you will have to wait for all the combats to be over.
Q: Can I play Psyche! if there is a pending combat due to Hedonism?
A: No, since there is already a combat queued. You could play Telepathic Tracking or Hunting the Quarry to extend the combat though.
Q: Can I play Hidden Lurker if there is a pending combat due to Hedonism?
A: No, for the same reason. And you cannot play it after the Hedonism combat neither because the requirements are not met (the Hedonism combat does not involve the blocking minion).
Q: If I play Form of Mist at superior, can I burn a blood to continue the action if there is a pending combat due to Hedonism?
A: No, actions cannot be continued while there is a pending combat.
Q: Let's say there is no combat queued. I play Form of Mist at superior, what happens if Psyche! is played?
A: The action does not continue. A new combat starts.
Q: What if my vampire was blocked, a Psyche! was played. Could I play Form of Mist at superior to continue the action at some point?
A: Yes, but only in the final combat (if all conditions are met).
Queue a combat: set up a future combat during the resolution of an action.
- If a combat is queued during another combat, the queued combat will start after the current combat ends.
- If a combat is queued before action resolution, the queued combat will start after resolving the action, but still as part of the action resolution:
- if the action is blocked, the queued combat will start after the block resolution, that is after the combat resulting from the block ends (if any)
- if the action is successful, the queued combat will start after the effects of the action have taken place.
Q: If a combat is "queued" by Hedonism and the action is blocked, when is it possible to play Cats' Guidance (or Truth in Darkness)?
A: The queued combat occurs right after the combat induced by the block. Cats' Guidance can be played once all combats are over.
Q: Let's assume there is no combat queued. The combat induced by a block ends, and Psyche! is played to start a new combat, can I play Cats' Guidance before the new combat?
A: No. The combat started by Psyche! uses the same queue of combats. So, you will have to wait for all the combats to be over.
Q: Can I play Psyche! if there is a pending combat due to Hedonism?
A: No, since there is already a combat queued. You could play Telepathic Tracking or Hunting the Quarry to extend the combat though.
Q: Can I play Hidden Lurker if there is a pending combat due to Hedonism?
A: No, for the same reason. And you cannot play it after the Hedonism combat neither because the requirements are not met (the Hedonism combat does not involve the blocking minion).
Q: If I play Form of Mist at superior, can I burn a blood to continue the action if there is a pending combat due to Hedonism?
A: No, actions cannot be continued while there is a pending combat.
Q: Let's say there is no combat queued. I play Form of Mist at superior, what happens if Psyche! is played?
A: The action does not continue. A new combat starts.
Q: What if my vampire was blocked, a Psyche! was played. Could I play Form of Mist at superior to continue the action at some point?
A: Yes, but only in the final combat (if all conditions are met).
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13 Jun 2025 14:53 #114687
by Ankha
Sorry, the example is a bad one. Replace Hedonism with Psyche!
Replied by Ankha on topic Queued combats
With Hedonism specifically (as in the question), why would Form of Mist be usable to continue the action during the last queued combat? It is specifically Vampire C (if A is acting and B queued to be entered combat with) that participates in the "final combat" and Form of Mist specifies that the action can only continue if "this vampire was blocked while performing an action". C is not performing an action, nor were they blocked.Q: If I play Form of Mist at superior, can I burn a blood to continue the action if there is a pending combat due to Hedonism?
A: No, actions cannot be continued while there is a pending combat. You could however play Form of Mist during the last combat, and continue the action.
Sorry, the example is a bad one. Replace Hedonism with Psyche!
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13 Jun 2025 14:57 #114688
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Queued combats
Probably, but this is not a rule question.Sirens lure says by card text:
Only usable by a ready unlocked vampire other than the acting minion if a minion attempts to block. That attempt fails and the blocking minion cannot attempt to block this action again. Lock this vampire and the blocking minion. After the action resolution, this vampire and the blocking minion enter combat.
Is Sirens lure, which is already avaible on POD, going to be changed to reflect this this?
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