question-circle Carlton van Wyk and a trip to the uncontrolled region

25 Jul 2025 11:06 #115056 by Franz
Vampire A is anarch and commits diablerie.There is a blood hunt referendum that passes, he uses Lay Low to go to the uncontrolled region instead of burning. His Methuselah influences him back up in his next influence phase. Then the next methuselah recruits Carlton (or he was already in play, it doesn't matter), can Carlton be burned in his methuselah's discard phase to burn Vampire A? Or does the trip to the uncontrolled region makes him a "new" vampire that dind't commit diablerie since Carlton's controller last turn?

Relevant card texts:

[Action Modifier] [Combat]
Lay Low
Requires an anarch.
Only usable when a blood hunt referendum passes and would burn this anarch. Move this anarch to the uncontrolled region (breaking any temporary control effects). Any cards and counters on this vampire remain with him or her (but are out of play as long as the vampire remains uncontrolled).


[Ally]
Carlton Van Wyk
aka Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
Unique mortal with 2 life. 0 strength, 0 bleed.
Carlton can strike: 1R damage. Once each combat, he can strike: dodge. Carlton gets +1 intercept against vampires. During your discard phase, you can burn Carlton to burn a vampire who has committed diablerie since your last turn.

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25 Jul 2025 15:48 #115057 by acbishop
he can burn as cards going down to the uncontrolled "remember" everything as per the Banishment ruling.

"A banished vampire will remember all effects applied to them if they are influenced back. This includes gained or lost titles and continuous effects "

So for Carlton the vampire will still be a vampire who has committed diablerie since your last turn.

If you wait another turn to re-influence the vampire, then Carlton won't see it as the diableria wasn't since Carlton's controlled's last turn

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