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21 Oct 2026 17:40 - 21 Oct 2026 17:40 #117931
by Hobbesgoblin
Conflicting Rulings on Patagia: Flaps Allowing Limited Flight and Earthshock was created by Hobbesgoblin
usenet.krcg.org/t/0vIFP12OoKI/#m4
here LSJ says it does dmg if you use flight after ES is played and also here
usenet.krcg.org/t/KBFnBRrOGB4/#m1
he says it can target retainers even tho vampire has flight,
usenet.krcg.org/t/vekn-28446/#m7
but here Pascal overruled both, saying the strikes resolve withotu effect, on either the minion or its retainers
[Action]
Patagia: Flaps Allowing Limited Flight
+1 stealth action.
Put this card on the acting Nosferatu. This vampire gets an optional maneuver each combat. Once each combat, this vampire may burn 1 blood to gain flight [FLIGHT]
for the remainder of the round. A vampire may have only 1 Patagia card.
[Combat]
Earthshock
[Potence]
Strike: strength ranged damage. This strike cannot be dodged. Not usable against a minion with flight [FLIGHT]
.
[Superior Potence]
As above, but for strength+1 ranged damage.
here LSJ says it does dmg if you use flight after ES is played and also here
usenet.krcg.org/t/KBFnBRrOGB4/#m1
he says it can target retainers even tho vampire has flight,
usenet.krcg.org/t/vekn-28446/#m7
but here Pascal overruled both, saying the strikes resolve withotu effect, on either the minion or its retainers
Patagia
[Action]
Patagia: Flaps Allowing Limited Flight
+1 stealth action.
Put this card on the acting Nosferatu. This vampire gets an optional maneuver each combat. Once each combat, this vampire may burn 1 blood to gain flight [FLIGHT]
for the remainder of the round. A vampire may have only 1 Patagia card.
Earthshock
[Combat]
Earthshock
[Potence]
Strike: strength ranged damage. This strike cannot be dodged. Not usable against a minion with flight [FLIGHT]
.
[Superior Potence]
As above, but for strength+1 ranged damage.
Last edit: 21 Oct 2026 17:40 by Hobbesgoblin.
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21 Oct 2026 19:14 #117932
by kschaefer
Replied by kschaefer on topic Conflicting Rulings on Patagia: Flaps Allowing Limited Flight and Earthshock
I would not say the Pascal overruled the previous rulings or he would have noted the REVERSAL. I suspect he made independent rulings that conflict. Given an explicit REVERSAL is missing, this calls for further adjudication.
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28 Oct 2026 07:31 #117990
by Ankha
LSJ's ruling is the correct one. Please disregard Pascal's ruling.
Replied by Ankha on topic Conflicting Rulings on Patagia: Flaps Allowing Limited Flight and Earthshock
usenet.krcg.org/t/0vIFP12OoKI/#m4
here LSJ says it does dmg if you use flight after ES is played and also here
usenet.krcg.org/t/KBFnBRrOGB4/#m1
he says it can target retainers even tho vampire has flight,
usenet.krcg.org/t/vekn-28446/#m7
but here Pascal overruled both, saying the strikes resolve withotu effect, on either the minion or its retainers
LSJ's ruling is the correct one. Please disregard Pascal's ruling.
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