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27 Oct 2026 23:00 - 27 Oct 2026 23:02 #117987 by Gr33n
Replied by Gr33n on topic Does Dabbler trigger on an ended action?
Dabbler not being an action modifier isn't a good enough argument in itself.

"after an action is resolved" and "after action resolution" seem to be the same window.

Actions that have ended before or during resolution do not allow playing "after action resolution" cards.

For which reason would Dabbler being an optional effect allow it to be used when the action is no longer active?

Daring the dawn has a ruling that the damage is still applied. Difference is that daring the dawn is a mandatory effect.

Similar to how Outside the hourglass damage must resolve even if during the prevention window it opens, alpha glint ends the combat.

Or an action ending due to sup Mirror walk still has the vampire burned from Millicent vampire hunter.

Would be nice to know the official answer either way.
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28 Oct 2026 07:22 #117988 by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Does Dabbler trigger on an ended action?

During an action, a vampire with dabbler uses 3 disciplines.

Change of target is played.

Can dabbler trigger?

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Name: Dabbler
Cardtype: Master
Archetype. Trifle.
Put this card on a vampire you control. Once each turn, after an action (successful or not) is resolved during which this vampire used 3 or more Disciplines to play cards, this vampire can either burn 1 blood to unlock or gain 1 blood. A vampire can have only one archetype.

The answer is: No. Once the action ends, you cannot use effects that are usable during a action. "after an action (successful or not) is resolved" happens after resolution of the action.

This effect is not a delayed triggered effect that has to be resolved due to a previous condition met.

Dabbler not being an action modifier isn't a good enough argument in itself.

"after an action is resolved" and "after action resolution" seem to be the same window.

Correct.
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28 Oct 2026 10:30 - 28 Oct 2026 10:40 #117992 by mipopo3
Replied by mipopo3 on topic Does Dabbler trigger on an ended action?

The answer is: No. Once the action ends, you cannot use effects that are usable during a action. "after an action (successful or not) is resolved" happens after resolution of the action.

Hi Anka, can you clarify this, as this looks to be a mixup with "

Effects triggered when the action is blocked are still applied. RTR 19991206 "

while "No other modifier or reaction can be played afterwards: the action has ended." is not apllyed to Master cards.
LSJ 20010803-1
RTR 20180719

Note that the Change of target text in question is :
"The action ends (unsuccessfully)"
vs Dabbler
"after an action (successful or not) is resolved"

Dabbler
Warning: Spoiler!

Change of Target
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Action ended, not canceled, so "Yes", you get the blood.

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28 Oct 2026 11:29 #117994 by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Does Dabbler trigger on an ended action?

The answer is: No. Once the action ends, you cannot use effects that are usable during a action. "after an action (successful or not) is resolved" happens after resolution of the action.

Hi Anka, can you clarify this, as this looks to be a mixup with "Effects triggered when the action is blocked are still applied. RTR 19991206 "

There's no such effect here. Nothing is triggered when the action is blocked.

while "No other modifier or reaction can be played afterwards: the action has ended." is not apllyed to Master cards.
LSJ 20010803-1
RTR 20180719

Note that the Change of target text in question is :
"The action ends (unsuccessfully)"
vs Dabbler
"after an action (successful or not) is resolved"

Action ended, not canceled, so "Yes", you get the blood.

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28 Oct 2026 12:55 #117995 by mipopo3
Replied by mipopo3 on topic Does Dabbler trigger on an ended action?
So, just to confirm, the "Dabbler" trigger, to get blood, will not trigger after "Change of target"?
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