Cause and Effect - S2E04
07 Feb 2012 21:39 - 07 Feb 2012 21:40 #22506
by Forhead
Isak Esbjörnsson Bjärmark
Cause and Effect - S2E04 was created by Forhead
The fourth episode of the second season is now done and uploaded. This time around we discuss Turbos and slowturbos, the ins and outs. Next epdisode is going to air at 20:00 CET Tuesday the 14th of February.
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Warning: Spoiler!
Dust to Dust, Udine, Italy, 01-14-2007, 18 players
Deck Name: [Lasombra] Turbo Lucita, Created By: Andrea Ravera
Crypt: (18 cards, Min: 32, Max: 32, Avg: 8)
5 Lucita (ADV) cel pot DOM FOR OBT 8 Lasombra
13 Lucita cel pot DOM FOR OBT 8 Lasombra
Library: (90 cards)
Action (23 cards)
1 Distraction
9 Embrace, The
10 Force of Will
3 Hourglass of the Mind
Action Modifier (42 cards)
9 Conditioning
9 Daring the Dawn
2 Forced March
16 Freak Drive
3 Shadow Play
3 Shroud of Absence
Combat (4 cards)
4 Shadow Body
Ally (1 cards)
1 Mylan Horseed (Goblin)
Retainer (10 cards)
10 Camarilla Vitae Slave
Equipment (6 cards)
6 Soul Gem of Etrius
Master (4 cards)
1 Elysian Fields
3 Vast Wealth
Deck Name: [Lasombra] Turbo Lucita, Created By: Andrea Ravera
Crypt: (18 cards, Min: 32, Max: 32, Avg: 8)
5 Lucita (ADV) cel pot DOM FOR OBT 8 Lasombra
13 Lucita cel pot DOM FOR OBT 8 Lasombra
Library: (90 cards)
Action (23 cards)
1 Distraction
9 Embrace, The
10 Force of Will
3 Hourglass of the Mind
Action Modifier (42 cards)
9 Conditioning
9 Daring the Dawn
2 Forced March
16 Freak Drive
3 Shadow Play
3 Shroud of Absence
Combat (4 cards)
4 Shadow Body
Ally (1 cards)
1 Mylan Horseed (Goblin)
Retainer (10 cards)
10 Camarilla Vitae Slave
Equipment (6 cards)
6 Soul Gem of Etrius
Master (4 cards)
1 Elysian Fields
3 Vast Wealth
Warning: Spoiler!
Tjockisblock at Lincon, Linköping, Sweden, May 23, 2009,13 players
Deck Name: Cybele on speedhack, Author: Alexander Båskman
Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 10 max: 10 average: 10
11x Cybele 10, ANI DAI OBF PRE SER THA, Baali
1x Nergal 10, AUS DAI FOR OBF PRE THA, Baali
Library (64 cards)
Master:
Antediluvian Awakening x1
Ashur Tablets x6
Celerity x6
Dreams of the Sphinx x5
Fortschritt Library x1
Golconda: Inner peace x3
Pentex Subversion x1
Redeemed the Lost Soul x3
The Parthenon x2
Villein x4
Wash x1
Action Modifiers:
Elder Impersonation x3
Faceless Night x2
Into Thin Air x4
Mirror Walk x2
Spying Mission x1
Truth of a Thousand Lies x6
Equipment:
Soul Gem of Etrius x2
Event:
Anthelios, the Red Star x1
Action:
Call the Great Beast x6
Magic of the Smith x4
Deck Name: Cybele on speedhack, Author: Alexander Båskman
Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 10 max: 10 average: 10
11x Cybele 10, ANI DAI OBF PRE SER THA, Baali
1x Nergal 10, AUS DAI FOR OBF PRE THA, Baali
Library (64 cards)
Master:
Antediluvian Awakening x1
Ashur Tablets x6
Celerity x6
Dreams of the Sphinx x5
Fortschritt Library x1
Golconda: Inner peace x3
Pentex Subversion x1
Redeemed the Lost Soul x3
The Parthenon x2
Villein x4
Wash x1
Action Modifiers:
Elder Impersonation x3
Faceless Night x2
Into Thin Air x4
Mirror Walk x2
Spying Mission x1
Truth of a Thousand Lies x6
Equipment:
Soul Gem of Etrius x2
Event:
Anthelios, the Red Star x1
Action:
Call the Great Beast x6
Magic of the Smith x4
Warning: Spoiler!
Los susurros del Baali, Badia del Valles, Spain, May 15, 2011, 25 players
Deck Name: Turbo Nergal, Original idea: Acbishop
Crypt: (13 cards, Min: 6, Max: 40, Avg: 5,76)
6 Nergal AUS DAI FOR OBF PRE THA 10 Baali
2 Andy for 1 Caitiff
1 Neel Ramanathan ani for 3 Ravnos
2 Aimee Laroux for pre 2 Daughters of Cacophony
1 Rosemarie mel FOR 3 Daughters of Cacophony
1 Rashiel val for 3 Salubri Antitribu
Library: (90 cards)
Action (27 cards)
11 Eternal Mask, The
11 Call the Great Beast
5 Scrounging
Action Modifier (56 cards)
33 Freak Drive
12 Daring the Dawn
3 Psychomachia
5 Faceless Night
3 Elder Impersonation
Combo (7 cards)
7 Sense the Sin
Deck Name: Turbo Nergal, Original idea: Acbishop
Crypt: (13 cards, Min: 6, Max: 40, Avg: 5,76)
6 Nergal AUS DAI FOR OBF PRE THA 10 Baali
2 Andy for 1 Caitiff
1 Neel Ramanathan ani for 3 Ravnos
2 Aimee Laroux for pre 2 Daughters of Cacophony
1 Rosemarie mel FOR 3 Daughters of Cacophony
1 Rashiel val for 3 Salubri Antitribu
Library: (90 cards)
Action (27 cards)
11 Eternal Mask, The
11 Call the Great Beast
5 Scrounging
Action Modifier (56 cards)
33 Freak Drive
12 Daring the Dawn
3 Psychomachia
5 Faceless Night
3 Elder Impersonation
Combo (7 cards)
7 Sense the Sin
Isak Esbjörnsson Bjärmark
Last edit: 07 Feb 2012 21:40 by Forhead.
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07 Feb 2012 22:35 #22511
by agzocgud
Overkill is highly underrated. You know, like in computor games and such.
Replied by agzocgud on topic Re: Cause and Effect - S2E04
Lucita can go anarch to get rid of blood.
Overkill is highly underrated. You know, like in computor games and such.
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08 Feb 2012 04:55 - 08 Feb 2012 04:56 #22526
by Miasmat
Replied by Miasmat on topic Re: Cause and Effect - S2E04
Beckett (ADV) has the horrible disadvantage of making you discard your hand when he burns, right?
Julius can Thin Blood before Mummify, for a very minor effect during that combat.
... If Beckett leaves the ready region, discard your hand.
Julius can Thin Blood before Mummify, for a very minor effect during that combat.
Thin Blood
Type: Combat
Requires: Quietus
Cost: 1 blood
[qui] Only usable at close range before strikes are chosen. The opposing vampire burns 1 blood. A vampire may play only one Thin Blood each round of combat.
[QUI] As above, but the opposing vampire burns 2 blood.
Last edit: 08 Feb 2012 04:56 by Miasmat.
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08 Feb 2012 10:14 #22555
by Forhead
Isak Esbjörnsson Bjärmark
Replied by Forhead on topic Re: Cause and Effect - S2E04
Thank you guys for the input. Yeah, now all of a sudden the Beckett turbo seems like pure crap. That's unfortunate, I got really worked up about the idea! :/
Isak Esbjörnsson Bjärmark
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08 Feb 2012 13:27 #22560
by alek
Replied by alek on topic Re: Cause and Effect - S2E04
I feel I have to write it down.
Each time Anders was saying "turbo decks", f.e. "..we're going to talk about turbo decks.." I've heard "terrible decks".
Is it only me?
Each time Anders was saying "turbo decks", f.e. "..we're going to talk about turbo decks.." I've heard "terrible decks".

Is it only me?
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08 Feb 2012 13:33 #22561
by Shadowhunter
Replied by Shadowhunter on topic Re: Cause and Effect - S2E04
Step 1: Gain capacity.
Step 2: Have Fortitude.
Step 3: Use Soul Gem.
Step 4: ??
Step 5: Profit.
Ok, just for laughs, here's a Slow Sanguine Instructions deck:
Crypt: 30
30x Spiridonas
Library: 60
Masters: 24
3x The Parthenon
1x Pentex Subversion
9x Fortitude
5x Dreams of the Sphinx
6x Ashur Tablets
Actions:20
6x Third Tradition: Progeny
8x Sanguine Instructions
6x Magic of the Smith
Action Modifiers:14
9x Daring the Dawn
5x Mirror Walk
Equipments:2
2x Soul Gem of Etrius
So here's what you do.
Pull up Spiridonas.
Go 3rd Trad, fetch For from your deck or Ash heap (depending on if you had any on your hand you discarded earlier). Transfer 1 blood to the new guy. You now have Spiridonas at 7 blood and a 2-cap with for.
Next turn, play Fortitude on the little guy.
Have Spiridonas do the same thing again. Now at 5 blood.
Repeat until you have 4 support dudes with FOR and Spiridonas himself with for through usage of FOR masters.
He should have 1 blood now. Do magic for Soul Gem, play daring.
New Spiridonas enters.
Do sanguine instructions with first support dude.
Bleed with Spiridonas for 9-2= 7, play Daring.
Repeat 3 times.
You've now bleed for 28.
Enjoy the table hate until your next turn:P
Oh and the Tablets are there less for the long term and more because you'll probably have to discard a lot of cards to set everything up so they're more to make sure you have the cards back in your library.
Ok, so it's obviously not viable but just for the sake of it I made that one.
Also, here's a Jacob the Glitch deck, also just for fun:
Step 2: Have Fortitude.
Step 3: Use Soul Gem.
Step 4: ??
Step 5: Profit.
Ok, just for laughs, here's a Slow Sanguine Instructions deck:
Warning: Spoiler!
Crypt: 30
30x Spiridonas
Library: 60
Masters: 24
3x The Parthenon
1x Pentex Subversion
9x Fortitude
5x Dreams of the Sphinx
6x Ashur Tablets
Actions:20
6x Third Tradition: Progeny
8x Sanguine Instructions
6x Magic of the Smith
Action Modifiers:14
9x Daring the Dawn
5x Mirror Walk
Equipments:2
2x Soul Gem of Etrius
So here's what you do.
Pull up Spiridonas.
Go 3rd Trad, fetch For from your deck or Ash heap (depending on if you had any on your hand you discarded earlier). Transfer 1 blood to the new guy. You now have Spiridonas at 7 blood and a 2-cap with for.
Next turn, play Fortitude on the little guy.
Have Spiridonas do the same thing again. Now at 5 blood.
Repeat until you have 4 support dudes with FOR and Spiridonas himself with for through usage of FOR masters.
He should have 1 blood now. Do magic for Soul Gem, play daring.
New Spiridonas enters.
Do sanguine instructions with first support dude.
Bleed with Spiridonas for 9-2= 7, play Daring.
Repeat 3 times.
You've now bleed for 28.
Enjoy the table hate until your next turn:P
Oh and the Tablets are there less for the long term and more because you'll probably have to discard a lot of cards to set everything up so they're more to make sure you have the cards back in your library.
Ok, so it's obviously not viable but just for the sake of it I made that one.
Also, here's a Jacob the Glitch deck, also just for fun:
Warning: Spoiler!
Deck Name :
Author : Shadowhunter
Description :
Crypt [40 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 2 average: 2
40x Jacob, The Glitch 2 THA !Tremere:3
Library [80 cards]
Action [24]
16x Bum's Rush
8x Magic of the Smith
Action Modifier [16]
16x Skin of the Chameleon
Ally [8]
8x Nephandus (Mage)
Combat [16]
16x Burst of Sunlight
Equipment [2]
2x Soul Gem of Etrius
Master [14]
12x Ashur Tablets
2x Barrens, The
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Feb 08 15:28:23 2012]
Ok, so you don't need 40 Jacob (I think), but with Ashur Tablets you might need many of him.
Basic Idea:
Magic for Soul Gem.
Bum's + Skin + Burst on anyone who can block you.
Repeat until no one is left. Recruit Nephandus.
Ashur is there because of Jacobs horrendous drawback that force you to discard your entire hand at the whim of your predator. Though that might work to your advantage if your hand is clogged, so it's not risk free for your predator to do so.
Author : Shadowhunter
Description :
Crypt [40 vampires] Capacity min: 2 max: 2 average: 2
40x Jacob, The Glitch 2 THA !Tremere:3
Library [80 cards]
Action [24]
16x Bum's Rush
8x Magic of the Smith
Action Modifier [16]
16x Skin of the Chameleon
Ally [8]
8x Nephandus (Mage)
Combat [16]
16x Burst of Sunlight
Equipment [2]
2x Soul Gem of Etrius
Master [14]
12x Ashur Tablets
2x Barrens, The
Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Feb 08 15:28:23 2012]
Ok, so you don't need 40 Jacob (I think), but with Ashur Tablets you might need many of him.
Basic Idea:
Magic for Soul Gem.
Bum's + Skin + Burst on anyone who can block you.
Repeat until no one is left. Recruit Nephandus.
Ashur is there because of Jacobs horrendous drawback that force you to discard your entire hand at the whim of your predator. Though that might work to your advantage if your hand is clogged, so it's not risk free for your predator to do so.
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