Cause and Effect - S03E06
03 Jun 2012 11:45 #31655
by Forhead
Isak Esbjörnsson Bjärmark
Cause and Effect - S03E06 was created by Forhead
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In this episode we talk about the Samedi clan and bring up some of the more prominent (and less prominent) of their decks. Enjoy!
Part 1:
Part 2:
MiniQualifier, Genova, Italy, February 5, 2012, 16 players, 2R+F
Deck Name: Turbo Baron, Created By: Alessandro Donati
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 24, Max: 32, Avg: 7)
1 Le Dinh Tho aus dom NEC 5 Nagaraja
1 Mina Grotius cel FOR NEC 6 Harbingers of Skulls
1 Rafaele Giovanni cel obf NEC 6 Giovanni
1 Gillespi Giovanni aus DOM NEC POT 7 Giovanni
1 Gisela Harden aus dem FOR NEC 7 Harbingers of Skulls
1 Kanimana Belghazi pro AUS DOM NEC 7 Nagaraja
1 Andrea Giovanni pot vic DOM NEC 7 Giovanni
1 Carlotta Giovanni dom obf NEC POT 7 Giovanni
1 Egothha obf AUS FOR NEC 7 Harbingers of Skulls
1 Pochtli cel dom NEC OBF POT 8 Giovanni
1 Anisa Marianna Lopez aus FOR NEC QUI 8 Harbingers of Skulls
1 Baron dom FOR NEC OBF THN 9 Samedi
Library: (60 cards)
Master (22 cards)
1 Antediluvian Awakening
6 Coroner's Contact
1 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Fragment of the Book of Nod
1 Marrakesh Codex, The
1 Parthenon, The
4 Vast Wealth
6 Villein
1 Visit from the Capuchin
Action (18 cards)
9 Force of Will
9 Possession
Action Modifier (12 cards)
6 Call of the Hungry Dead
4 Daring the Dawn
2 Lost in Crowds
Equipment (2 cards)
2 Soul Gem of Etrius
Combo (6 cards)
6 Spectral Divination
In this episode we talk about the Samedi clan and bring up some of the more prominent (and less prominent) of their decks. Enjoy!
Part 1:
Part 2:
Warning: Spoiler!
Origins 2006, Columbus, OhioJune 30th, 2006, 3R+F, 24 players
Ben Swainbank's Tournament Winning Deck
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity average: 6.34
1x Baron, The 9 FOR NEC OBF THN dom 2 votes Samedi:2
1x Genina, The Red Poet 8 CHI OBF THN aus cel for Samedi:3
1x Reg Driscoll 8 OBF THN aus for pre Samedi:2
2x Jorge De La Muerte 7 OBF THN cel for nec Samedi:2
2x George Frederick 6 FOR THN nec obf Samedi:2
5x Lithrac 5 OBF for thn Samedi:2
Library [80 cards]
Master [15]
1x Anarch Troublemaker
5x Blood Doll
5x Coroner's Contact
1x Giant's Blood
1x Houngan
1x Information Highway
1x WMRH Talk Radio
Action Modifier [36]
6x Cloak the Gathering
4x Elder Impersonation
6x Faceless Night
10x Freak Drive
5x Lost in Crowds
5x Spying Mission
Ally [10]
10x Reanimated Corpse
Combat [6]
4x Ashes to Ashes
2x Creeping Infection
Event [2]
1x FBI Special Affairs Division
1x Unmasking, The
Retainer [1]
1x Tasha Morgan
Action [10]
10x Little Mountain Cemetery
Ben Swainbank's Tournament Winning Deck
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity average: 6.34
1x Baron, The 9 FOR NEC OBF THN dom 2 votes Samedi:2
1x Genina, The Red Poet 8 CHI OBF THN aus cel for Samedi:3
1x Reg Driscoll 8 OBF THN aus for pre Samedi:2
2x Jorge De La Muerte 7 OBF THN cel for nec Samedi:2
2x George Frederick 6 FOR THN nec obf Samedi:2
5x Lithrac 5 OBF for thn Samedi:2
Library [80 cards]
Master [15]
1x Anarch Troublemaker
5x Blood Doll
5x Coroner's Contact
1x Giant's Blood
1x Houngan
1x Information Highway
1x WMRH Talk Radio
Action Modifier [36]
6x Cloak the Gathering
4x Elder Impersonation
6x Faceless Night
10x Freak Drive
5x Lost in Crowds
5x Spying Mission
Ally [10]
10x Reanimated Corpse
Combat [6]
4x Ashes to Ashes
2x Creeping Infection
Event [2]
1x FBI Special Affairs Division
1x Unmasking, The
Retainer [1]
1x Tasha Morgan
Action [10]
10x Little Mountain Cemetery
Warning: Spoiler!
Deck Name : Zombie Asylum , Author : Stefan Karlsson
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 4 average: 2.33333
2x Abebe 4 nec obf thn Samedi:4
1x Roger Farnsworth 4 OBF aus !Malkavian:3
1x Jackie 3 DEM !Malkavian:4
1x Marta 3 aus dem !Malkavian:4
1x Midget 3 DEM obf pre !Malkavian:3
1x Bloodfeud 2 obf !Malkavian:4
1x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
1x Basir 1 qui Assamite:4
1x Cesar Holfield 1 obf Caitiff:4
1x Lisa Noble 1 ani Caitiff:3
1x Sandra White 1 Caitiff:3
Library [60 cards]
Action [18]
1x Aranthebes, The Immortal
7x Graverobbing
9x Pressing Flesh
1x Sibyl's Tongue
Action Modifier [9]
7x Domain of Evernight
2x Veil the Legions
Ally [8]
7x Escaped Mental Patient
1x Gregory Winter
Combat [6]
6x Fake Out
Event [1]
1x Uncoiling, The
Master [18]
6x Agent of Power
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Golconda: Inner Peace
5x Inceptor
3x Information Highway
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 4 average: 2.33333
2x Abebe 4 nec obf thn Samedi:4
1x Roger Farnsworth 4 OBF aus !Malkavian:3
1x Jackie 3 DEM !Malkavian:4
1x Marta 3 aus dem !Malkavian:4
1x Midget 3 DEM obf pre !Malkavian:3
1x Bloodfeud 2 obf !Malkavian:4
1x Anarch Convert 1 Caitiff:0
1x Basir 1 qui Assamite:4
1x Cesar Holfield 1 obf Caitiff:4
1x Lisa Noble 1 ani Caitiff:3
1x Sandra White 1 Caitiff:3
Library [60 cards]
Action [18]
1x Aranthebes, The Immortal
7x Graverobbing
9x Pressing Flesh
1x Sibyl's Tongue
Action Modifier [9]
7x Domain of Evernight
2x Veil the Legions
Ally [8]
7x Escaped Mental Patient
1x Gregory Winter
Combat [6]
6x Fake Out
Event [1]
1x Uncoiling, The
Master [18]
6x Agent of Power
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Golconda: Inner Peace
5x Inceptor
3x Information Highway
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
Warning: Spoiler!
MiniQualifier, Genova, Italy, February 5, 2012, 16 players, 2R+F
Deck Name: Turbo Baron, Created By: Alessandro Donati
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 24, Max: 32, Avg: 7)
1 Le Dinh Tho aus dom NEC 5 Nagaraja
1 Mina Grotius cel FOR NEC 6 Harbingers of Skulls
1 Rafaele Giovanni cel obf NEC 6 Giovanni
1 Gillespi Giovanni aus DOM NEC POT 7 Giovanni
1 Gisela Harden aus dem FOR NEC 7 Harbingers of Skulls
1 Kanimana Belghazi pro AUS DOM NEC 7 Nagaraja
1 Andrea Giovanni pot vic DOM NEC 7 Giovanni
1 Carlotta Giovanni dom obf NEC POT 7 Giovanni
1 Egothha obf AUS FOR NEC 7 Harbingers of Skulls
1 Pochtli cel dom NEC OBF POT 8 Giovanni
1 Anisa Marianna Lopez aus FOR NEC QUI 8 Harbingers of Skulls
1 Baron dom FOR NEC OBF THN 9 Samedi
Library: (60 cards)
Master (22 cards)
1 Antediluvian Awakening
6 Coroner's Contact
1 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Fragment of the Book of Nod
1 Marrakesh Codex, The
1 Parthenon, The
4 Vast Wealth
6 Villein
1 Visit from the Capuchin
Action (18 cards)
9 Force of Will
9 Possession
Action Modifier (12 cards)
6 Call of the Hungry Dead
4 Daring the Dawn
2 Lost in Crowds
Equipment (2 cards)
2 Soul Gem of Etrius
Combo (6 cards)
6 Spectral Divination
Isak Esbjörnsson Bjärmark
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12 Jun 2012 02:46 #32039
by KoKo
Replied by KoKo on topic Re: Cause and Effect - S03E06
Interesting summary of the clan but am a little disappointed that you did not delve into some of the possibilities opened up by certain Samedi vampires. For instance, Genina has aus and CHI and can serve as the base for a Nightmare Curse deck. She is also immune to blood hunts and can abuse Abactor. Group 3-4 Samedi have a decent amount of NEC allowing for Shambling Hordes and/or Chair of Hades to be played.
But you're right, the Samedi do have a lot of potential, despite their obvious flaws. They can generate massive amounts of pool with with some of the cards you mentioned (LMC, Dark Mind, Off-Kilter) and Villein/Abactor/Genina. Many people also underestimate the powerful inherent bleed the Samedi clan have, and tooling up with either a camera phone/retainer makes for a constant stream of heavy bleeds (in addition to Reanimated Corpse) that most decks cannot handle in the long run.
I have not explored Troglodytia yet but she may prove interesting in a block deck, hitting for 2 damage and playing hidden strength/groaning corpse. It just seems like there is more to do with the Samedi than most give them credit for and am quite happy that you dedicated an entire show to a poorly understood clan.
Great work!
But you're right, the Samedi do have a lot of potential, despite their obvious flaws. They can generate massive amounts of pool with with some of the cards you mentioned (LMC, Dark Mind, Off-Kilter) and Villein/Abactor/Genina. Many people also underestimate the powerful inherent bleed the Samedi clan have, and tooling up with either a camera phone/retainer makes for a constant stream of heavy bleeds (in addition to Reanimated Corpse) that most decks cannot handle in the long run.
I have not explored Troglodytia yet but she may prove interesting in a block deck, hitting for 2 damage and playing hidden strength/groaning corpse. It just seems like there is more to do with the Samedi than most give them credit for and am quite happy that you dedicated an entire show to a poorly understood clan.
Great work!
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14 Jun 2012 11:53 #32124
by alek
Replied by alek on topic Re: Cause and Effect - S03E06
nice episode. I'm happy that you decided to present the clan that majority of players consider the weakest clan of all. While I'm feeling the same I agree with KoKo that there is probably more strenght in this clan but not found yet. Maybe this episode will push someone to try them out.
I think you could discuss Josette with more details. She has a very powerfull special. I saw in acion very successfull rush deck with her as a star player.
Just one more note about inceptor. First, thx for reminding me about this card and second, IMO it's at its best when using some disciplines which are otherwise hard to get f.e. obeah/ temporis. It's especially good with scarce vampires when it's very expensive to put more vampires with those disciplines into play. I'm using it in my spirit marionette deck, where, together with infernal pact, I can have three minions able to play spirit marionette at superior with only one salubri.
I think you could discuss Josette with more details. She has a very powerfull special. I saw in acion very successfull rush deck with her as a star player.
Just one more note about inceptor. First, thx for reminding me about this card and second, IMO it's at its best when using some disciplines which are otherwise hard to get f.e. obeah/ temporis. It's especially good with scarce vampires when it's very expensive to put more vampires with those disciplines into play. I'm using it in my spirit marionette deck, where, together with infernal pact, I can have three minions able to play spirit marionette at superior with only one salubri.
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14 Jun 2012 17:00 #32129
by brandonsantacruz
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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Replied by brandonsantacruz on topic Re: Cause and Effect - S03E06
Hi guys,
Another great episode, thanks for the hard work in putting them together. My cousin is looking at building a Samedi deck and he should find this episode very useful. Enjoy your hiatus, hopefully it doesn't go too long
Brandon
Another great episode, thanks for the hard work in putting them together. My cousin is looking at building a Samedi deck and he should find this episode very useful. Enjoy your hiatus, hopefully it doesn't go too long
Brandon
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/
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16 Jun 2012 17:24 #32173
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I've played against one of those Pressing Flesh/Escaped Mental Patient decks. It made for a really dangerous table.
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