file Weenie !Salubri will burn you !!!

11 Oct 2011 11:35 #11817 by Pendargon
I always liked !Salubri group 2, but never got around to actually build or pay it. As it may change soon, i wonder if this concept of mine is a good idea :-D

Crypt : 12

3x Adonai
1x Dela Eden
2x Wolf Valentine
2x Kervos, the Lieutenant
2x Thomas Steed, The Angry
2x Doris McMillon

Library : 90 cards

Master : 15, 2 trifle

1x Code of Samiel
1x Hungry Coyote, The
4x Tribute to the master
1x Depravity
3x Blooding by the Code
3x Path of Retributin, The
2x Wider View

Action : 15

5x Blessing of the Name
5x Sense Death
5x Brother in Arms

Equipment : 8

6x Garrote
2x Meat Hook

Combat : 31

5x Concealed weapon
6x Armor of Caine's Fury
8x Sword of the Righteous
2x Taste of Vitae
3x Vengeance of Samiel
7x Death Seeker

Reaction : 17

3x On the Qui Vive
2x Wake with Evening's Freshness
4x Telepathic misdirection
8x Hide the Heart

Combo : 4

4x Burning Touch

How do you intend to oust?

Bleed multiple times for one, every turn, and burn prey's vampires. Use burning touch for a surprise enhancer.

How do you intend to keep from being ousted?

Bloating with tributes, wider view, and reducing bleeds with hide the heart. Occasional flick. If necessary, backrush and burn predator's Vampire

What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?

Adonai/Dela Eden, at least 2 other smaller !Salubri, and 1-2 Brother in arms

What do you want your average turn to look like?

Bleed or rush, perhaps burn vampire with garrote/Sword of the righteous/deathseeker, leave VAL guy untapped for Hide the heart. At times, play blessing of the name for multiact and intercept goodness.

What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?

People here like big Vamps, but apart from that, anything goes. Very little of Stealth/bleed decks in casual play

What problems have you observed with the deck in play?

Did not play it yet, but i presume that overly aggressive predator, heavy politics, or dedicated ranged combat can seriously mess-up my day. Oher than that, it is what i come here for advice :-D

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11 Oct 2011 12:48 #11818 by Klaital
I think you need more rushes there. As it stands you have 5 rushes, not really any intercept to speak of, and about half of your deck combat related cards, which to me looks like serious hand jam.

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11 Oct 2011 13:07 - 11 Oct 2011 13:10 #11819 by Pendargon
Adonai has an in-built rush against Camarilla, remember? That goes for about 2/3 decks around here. Also, when under blessing of the name, !Salubri have 1 intercept. I also considered getting abbots, but am not sure what to take out...

Also, i have 31 combat card, out of 90... That is even maybe a bit low for a combat decks i usually make... :-D.

I would be more appreciative if people wold say "take out x to add more of y". Need more rushes is hardly helpful if you do not explain like this : " You need more rushes to kill people, INSTEAD of...xyz which you do not really need that much" :)

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11 Oct 2011 14:06 #11825 by Boris The Blade
Want cards to take out? Blessing of the name and Hide the Heart. You are already burning vampires, you don't need extra damage or blood denial. I would also ditch the Depravity for the same reason, probably for a Yawp Court.

Ritual of the bitter rose should work much better than Taste of Vitae in this deck: you burn vampires even when they are full.

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11 Oct 2011 14:20 #11826 by Pendargon
I am unsure about blessing of the name. I've never played with it, ever, in theory seems good, but not sure about the practice...

Hide the Heart is not only blood denial, but also a very powerfull bleed reducer. It keeps me alive, so i believe it will stay. Depravity may go...

Ritual of the bitter rose seems interesting... Though i am not sure i have any :-(

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11 Oct 2011 22:27 - 11 Oct 2011 22:27 #11839 by Adonai
Blessing of the Name is truly a double-edged sword. Unless you use those extra actions to gain 6 pool by ousting your prey, you predator can simply wait you out and then take you out since up to 3 of your minions didn't untap.

Rather than Burning Touch, I would recommend Heidelberg Castle and the free plus bleed retainers, even possibly a Camera Phone or Codex of the Edenic Groundskeepers.

Tap out getting plus bleed, then untap with the Blessing of the Name to surprise your prey with multiple bleeds on that same turn.
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