file AIDS from bats!

26 Oct 2011 02:02 #12855 by technobabble66
The aim was to construct a deck that utilised Vampiric Disease (& other blood depletion tech) to force attrition on the table and then, obviously, sweep FTW!
The 2 main options seemed to be w ANI & Taunt the Caged Beast, and VAL & Blissful Agony.
Both present advantages & disadvatages, but i went w ANI as the basic Bats&Birds deck is pretty strong and could potentially win by itself (unlike many !salubri decks, sadly).

So the idea is to drop down VD (a few times). Use TtCB to force Pre/Pred combats to spread the disease.
Restricted Vitae & Hunger Moon restrict the hunting actions & generally keeps blood on minions to a minimum. Strained VS also hinders the hunting. Carvers keeps weenies down, and supplie me w blood. ANI combat keeps me at long range & does respectable damage, plus fuels Tastes of Vitae to resupply me w blood.
Some bleed tech is there - Deep song & retainers & Tier (plus the Mouse Army) w stealth - to actually get around to obtaining a VP or 2...
Crypt focuses on ANI + obf, so is a bit older than standard ANI decks.



Deck Name: VD 1.2 - ANI w obf
Author: technobabble66
Description:

Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=3 max=6 avg=4.83)
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2x Beetleman 4 obf ANI Nosferatu:4
1x Bobby Lemon 4 pro ANI Gangrel:3
1x CÈlËste Lamontagne 5 for ANI PRO !Gangrel:4
1x Effie Lowery 5 obf ANI SPI Ahrimane:4
1x Fish 5 pre ANI POT Guruhi:4
1x Humo 6 obf obt ANI POT !Nosferatu:4
2x Petra 5 aus ANI OBF Nosferatu:4
1x Sophia Watson 6 obf pro ANI FOR Gangrel:3
1x Stick 3 ANI !Nosferatu:4
1x Sundown 6 obf pre ANI POT Nosferatu:3

Library (90 cards)
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Master (17)
1x Carver's Meat Packing and Storage
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Fortschritt Library
2x Perfectionist
1x Powerbase: Montreal
2x Society of Leopold
1x Strained Vitae Supply
5x Vampiric Disease
3x Vessel

Event (3)
1x Hunger Moon
2x Restricted Vitae

Action (15)
1x Army of Rats
6x Deep Song
7x Taunt the Caged Beast
1x Tier of Souls

Ally (4)
1x Gregory Winter
1x Neighborhood Watch Commander (Hunter)
1x Underbridge Stray
1x Young Bloods

Retainer (4)
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
2x Raven Spy
1x Tasha Morgan

Action Modifier (19)
3x Cloak the Gathering
1x Elder Impersonation
2x Faceless Night
3x Forgotten Labyrinth
4x Lost in Crowds
3x Spying Mission
3x Veil the Legions

Combat (26)
8x Aid from Bats
1x Canine Horde
7x Carrion Crows
1x Drawing Out the Beast
5x Taste of Vitae
2x Terror Frenzy
2x Zip Gun

Combo (2)
2x Swallowed by the Night

Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Oct 26, 2011 06:31:05)




How do you intend to oust?
Attrition to weaken the table, then bleed towards later stages of game

How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Weaken pred, and rush w Taunt/Deep if necessary & use ANI combat. Some light intercept (more for hunting) may help slightly


What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
4-5 minions by mid-game; maybe more by later stages


What do you want your average turn to look like?
VD someone, Taunt a VD'd minion into other non-pox-ridden minions, maybe rush crippled minions, maybe bleed for 1-2 once or twice.

What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
Melbourne metagame is v diverse - both in deck build & speed. Generally pretty strong. Allies appear regularly, also.

What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
Not played as yet
ANI combat is fairly strong, so i'm hoping that will work at least.
Bleed & Vote defence is light, aside from the overall effect of the attrition. Guns & POT w maneuvers could smash me

Overall i think the deck should function sort of OK, i'm more concerned about some inclusions (eg: Strained BS, Carvers, Tier, Zip gun, Allies [& whether to include Carlton]) and the numbers/proportion of many other cards - eg: number/ratio of Aids&Carrion, Taunt&Deep, etc
The Zip guns are included to stay as a permanent maneuver - could be a bad idea, but i was worried abt running out of Aids...

Feedback most appreciated!!

Also, has anyone tried the VAL version of a VD deck - does/would it work?

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26 Oct 2011 03:23 #12858 by CryWolf
Replied by CryWolf on topic Re: AIDS from bats!
Let's make our deckposts look good!

DISCLAIMER: This is not a critique of the deck.

Deck Name : VD 1.2 - ANI w obf
Author : technobabble66
Description :
So the idea is to drop down VD (a few times). Use TtCB to force Pre/Pred combats to spread the disease.
Restricted Vitae & Hunger Moon restrict the hunting actions & generally keeps blood on minions to a minimum. Strained VS also hinders the hunting. Carvers keeps weenies down, and supplie me w blood. ANI combat keeps me at long range & does respectable damage, plus fuels Tastes of Vitae to resupply me w blood.
Some bleed tech is there - Deep song & retainers & Tier (plus the Mouse Army) w stealth - to actually get around to obtaining a VP or 2...
Crypt focuses on ANI + obf, so is a bit older than standard ANI decks.


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 6 average: 4.83333
2x Petra (5):ANI: :OBF: :aus:Nosferatu(g4)
2x Beetleman (4):ANI: :obf:Nosferatu(g4)
1x Humo (6):ANI: :POT: :obf: :obt:Nosferatu antitribu(g4)
1x Sophia Watson (6):ANI: :FOR: :obf: :pro:Gangrel(g3)
1x Sundown (6):ANI: :POT: :obf: :pre:Nosferatu(g3)
1x Celeste Lamontagne (5):ANI: :PRO: :for:Gangrel antitribu(g4)
1x Effie Lowery (5):ANI: :SPI: :obf:Ahrimane(g4)
1x Fish (5):ANI: :POT: :pre:Guruhi(g4)
1x Bobby Lemon (4):ANI: :pro:Gangrel(g3)
1x Stick (3):ANI:Nosferatu antitribu(g4)

Library [90 cards]

Action [15]
1x Army of Rats
6x Deep Song
7x Taunt the Caged Beast
1x Tier of Souls

Action Modifier [19]
3x Cloak the Gathering
1x Elder Impersonation
2x Faceless Night
3x Forgotten Labyrinth
4x Lost in Crowds
3x Spying Mission
3x Veil the Legions

Action Modifier/Combat [2]
2x Swallowed by the Night

Ally [4]
1x Gregory Winter
1x Neighborhood Watch Commander (Hunter)
1x Underbridge Stray
1x Young Bloods

Combat [26]
8x Aid from Bats
1x Canine Horde
7x Carrion Crows
1x Drawing Out the Beast
5x Taste of Vitae
2x Terror Frenzy
2x Zip Gun

Event [3]
1x Hunger Moon
2x Restricted Vitae

Master [17]
1x Carver's Meat Packing and Storage
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Fortschritt Library
2x Perfectionist
1x Powerbase: Montreal
2x Society of Leopold
1x Strained Vitae Supply
5x Vampiric Disease
3x Vessel

Retainer [4]
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
2x Raven Spy
1x Tasha Morgan


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Oct 26 13:21:34 2011]
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26 Oct 2011 05:50 #12863 by Lech
Replied by Lech on topic Re: AIDS from bats!
Not everyone should or will play taunt the caged beast, so you can include some :ani: or :ani: :obf:/:OBF: minions too.

:laso: :CEL: :DOM: :OBT: :POT: :cap8:
Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.

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26 Oct 2011 08:08 #12867 by Ashur
Replied by Ashur on topic Re: AIDS from bats!

Not everyone should or will play taunt the caged beast, so you can include some :ani: or :ani: :obf:/:OBF: minions too.

I guess you want to play ANI for strong combat.

I like the toolboxyness of the deck. Maybe I´ll try it out.

"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."

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26 Oct 2011 11:05 #12877 by technobabble66
Replied by technobabble66 on topic Re: AIDS from bats!
Thanks!

Yeah, the ANI was to maximise Carrion Crows, as it seems to be the greater of the Animalism combat cards for basic damage. The press from Bats is handy too. I'm not convinced i need everyone w ANI, but the crypt is not much older for it, so i thought i'd give it a try. I'll review the crypt to see if it would make a big difference. Maybe 1-2 weenies would be handy, esp if i keep the Carvers in.

Any suggestions in dropping adding library cards?

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26 Oct 2011 14:33 #12884 by Dorrinal
Replied by Dorrinal on topic Re: AIDS from bats!
You need more bats and fewer actions.

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