Deck Challenge - Girls will find I'm no pushover
20 Feb 2011 10:26 #1752
by Joscha
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Replied by Joscha on topic Re: Deck Challenge - Girls will find I'm no pushov
Giant's Blood for Lorenzo after the use of his special!
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20 Feb 2011 10:32 #1753
by Joscha
Yep, sure. But without Cybele their Liquidation/Tablets-engine will extremely slow down. And that will give you time enough to bleed the player out, if you have many minions or dominate. Often the girlsdeck plays Inner Circles. If you rob one of them, you'd bleed high enough.
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Replied by Joscha on topic Re: Deck Challenge - Girls will find I'm no pushov
Well obviously decks that kill minions and graverob them are going to cripple the Girls, or most other decks for that matter. The goal of the game, however, is not to cripple your prey. The goal is to oust him or her.
Yep, sure. But without Cybele their Liquidation/Tablets-engine will extremely slow down. And that will give you time enough to bleed the player out, if you have many minions or dominate. Often the girlsdeck plays Inner Circles. If you rob one of them, you'd bleed high enough.
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20 Feb 2011 19:17 - 20 Feb 2011 19:19 #1766
by Izaak
Replied by Izaak on topic Re: Deck Challenge - Girls will find I'm no pushov
Yeah well that was what I was trying to say. There is no way you are going to graverob an Inner Circle. The Inner Circle is the third minion that comes out. Only a fool would be bringing out more than just Aksinya after seeing Tupdogs or any other graverobbing deck.
Even better, if I put 4 on Aksinya and you bring out a !Tremere and discard a card that requires flight I'll just sit there not bringing out minions. I'm 100% sure the Girls deck can outbloat ANY fight deck until they're either ousted or out of steam.
Sure, the Girls deck does get hampered a fair bit by not having Cybele out. Then again, that only lasts until they draw or recycle their Parthenon.
Even better, if I put 4 on Aksinya and you bring out a !Tremere and discard a card that requires flight I'll just sit there not bringing out minions. I'm 100% sure the Girls deck can outbloat ANY fight deck until they're either ousted or out of steam.
Sure, the Girls deck does get hampered a fair bit by not having Cybele out. Then again, that only lasts until they draw or recycle their Parthenon.
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20 Feb 2011 20:52 #1774
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Deck Challenge - Girls will find I'm no pushov
You see that's where that method falls down to a Graverob-type deck. You keep on beating up Askinya until you can steal her (say Lorenzo's special, Graverob, etc) OR eat her. Stealing is preferable, since then your prey will grind themselves down if they influence out another Askinya and contest or you get a free minion to keep making 1-bleeds with.





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21 Feb 2011 11:10 #1785
by jonathan
Replied by jonathan on topic Re: Deck Challenge - Girls will find I'm no pushov
If i can remember well, there's this forgotten, underplayed card that the Tupdog deck plays. It's called conditioning...might help to oust your prey.
DBR has more trouble ousting its prey but if it can graverob its ousting power will get much better. Maybe graverobbing the Girls deck's prey is a good idea, so as to keep him under some pressure. The main question is wether DBR, a deck subject to hand jamming, will have the cardflow and resuorces for such table control.
Weenie Ani rush, with lots of Deep Song, is strong against Girls but is also a good deck all around.
DBR has more trouble ousting its prey but if it can graverob its ousting power will get much better. Maybe graverobbing the Girls deck's prey is a good idea, so as to keep him under some pressure. The main question is wether DBR, a deck subject to hand jamming, will have the cardflow and resuorces for such table control.
Weenie Ani rush, with lots of Deep Song, is strong against Girls but is also a good deck all around.
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22 Feb 2011 07:07 #1806
by Whisker
Replied by Whisker on topic Re: Deck Challenge - Girls will find I'm no pushov
Perhaps a weenie
with 5 or so wierding stone's. As a bonus you also get some info on other player's library, even if you don't burn their masters.
Weirding Stone [BH:R]
Cardtype: Equipment
Clan: Tzimisce
Cost: 1 blood
Equipment.
During any Methuselah's untap phase, you may look at the top card of that Methuselah's library. If that card is a master card, this vampire may burn 1 blood to burn that card.
Artist: Matt Mitchell

Weirding Stone [BH:R]
Cardtype: Equipment
Clan: Tzimisce
Cost: 1 blood
Equipment.
During any Methuselah's untap phase, you may look at the top card of that Methuselah's library. If that card is a master card, this vampire may burn 1 blood to burn that card.
Artist: Matt Mitchell
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