Helena and the Hunters
13 Mar 2011 20:39 #2416
by Ashur
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
Helena and the Hunters was created by Ashur
I built this as a joke, around Helena being immune to the Abyssal Hunter damage. Also the Villein-Lilith-combo and the Catatonic Fear-Target Vitals-combo (Vitals also works great with Hunters, striking for 5)
1. How do you intend to oust?
With Fame of by bleeding.
2. How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Deflection, blocking.
3. What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
Helena merged, a Las-weenie and some Abyssal Hunters.
4. What do you want your average turn to look like?
Villein-Liliths-trick. Hunters pinging vamps. Las-weenie puts Hunter into play. Helena blocking/bouncing.
5. What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
In casual games, very violent. In tournaments less violent.
6. What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
None really, but I guess I´ve been lucky so far. I would like help with the proportions of the cards, they are rather
random now.
Sorry, no ARDB on this computor.
4 Helena
4 Helena Adv
2 Leila Monroe
1 Lucy Markowitz
1 Tobias Smith
6 Ashur Tablets
6 Villein
3 Liliths Blessing
2 Fame
2 Presence
1 WMRH Talk Radio
1 Tension in the ranks
1 Art Museum
1 Society HG
1 Political HG
1 Epiphany
8 Abyssal Hunter
5 Shadow Play
4 Shroud of Night
3 Tenebrous Form
2 Conditioning
8 Catatonic Fear
8 Target Vitals
5 Obedience
5 Deflection
3 On the Qui Vive
2 Delaying Tactics
1. How do you intend to oust?
With Fame of by bleeding.
2. How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Deflection, blocking.
3. What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
Helena merged, a Las-weenie and some Abyssal Hunters.
4. What do you want your average turn to look like?
Villein-Liliths-trick. Hunters pinging vamps. Las-weenie puts Hunter into play. Helena blocking/bouncing.
5. What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
In casual games, very violent. In tournaments less violent.
6. What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
None really, but I guess I´ve been lucky so far. I would like help with the proportions of the cards, they are rather
random now.
Sorry, no ARDB on this computor.
4 Helena
4 Helena Adv
2 Leila Monroe
1 Lucy Markowitz
1 Tobias Smith
6 Ashur Tablets
6 Villein
3 Liliths Blessing
2 Fame
2 Presence
1 WMRH Talk Radio
1 Tension in the ranks
1 Art Museum
1 Society HG
1 Political HG
1 Epiphany
8 Abyssal Hunter
5 Shadow Play
4 Shroud of Night
3 Tenebrous Form
2 Conditioning
8 Catatonic Fear
8 Target Vitals
5 Obedience
5 Deflection
3 On the Qui Vive
2 Delaying Tactics
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
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13 Mar 2011 22:21 #2421
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Helena and the Hunters
First thought:
You need Wider Views. Probably 2 or 3. You do NOT want to be stuck with 3 Helena and no Helena ADV or worse, all Helena and nothing else. You have 8 Helena's in this crypt.
Epiphany should be out...
You need Wider Views. Probably 2 or 3. You do NOT want to be stuck with 3 Helena and no Helena ADV or worse, all Helena and nothing else. You have 8 Helena's in this crypt.
Epiphany should be out...





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14 Mar 2011 07:08 #2437
by Pullen




Replied by Pullen on topic Re: Helena and the Hunters
I like the idea, but not a fan of parts of the deck, first Tension plus allies and winnes often leads to pain for you, even thou the hunters are some what sturdy, I wonder just how often they might get popped (any deck with agg strikes well take the hit 3 to kill them).
also not a huge fan of cat fear and target vitals. It's not a bad combo, but is it enough to torp the right vamp at the right time?
WMRH should be KRCG, a Lost in Crowds and your burning pool. The Unmasking would be nice, I would also run Mr. Winthrop and the two named bleed retainers.
Just my two cents
also not a huge fan of cat fear and target vitals. It's not a bad combo, but is it enough to torp the right vamp at the right time?
WMRH should be KRCG, a Lost in Crowds and your burning pool. The Unmasking would be nice, I would also run Mr. Winthrop and the two named bleed retainers.
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14 Mar 2011 11:12 #2446
by Boris The Blade
Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Re: Helena and the Hunters
I am afraid the hunters don't cut it anymore.
Gregory Winter steals blood at +1 stealth
Impundulu steals blood at +1 stealth
The Young Bloods burn 2 blood at +1 stealth
Ossian rushes at +1 stealth, usually burning 2 blood
For removing blood from vampires, these are all better choices than the hunters, even in your deck.
Gregory Winter steals blood at +1 stealth
Impundulu steals blood at +1 stealth
The Young Bloods burn 2 blood at +1 stealth
Ossian rushes at +1 stealth, usually burning 2 blood
For removing blood from vampires, these are all better choices than the hunters, even in your deck.
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14 Mar 2011 18:40 #2465
by Ashur
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
Replied by Ashur on topic Re: Helena and the Hunters
Agreed, WW goes in.
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14 Mar 2011 18:47 #2466
by Ashur
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
Replied by Ashur on topic Re: Helena and the Hunters
Tension is ok. Just not drop it if you don´t like the seating 
Well, the cat feat-target vitals combo is not ideal in this deck, when no vamp has superior PRE from start. But I like it, for fun, cause target vitals is nice with the hunters.
OK for KRCG. Mr W, JS and Tasha can go in. But Unmasking... I don´t know. I am not sure I will profit more than others on it in my enviroment. But I guess I can choose not to drop it if in a bad spot.
Thanks for the tips.

Well, the cat feat-target vitals combo is not ideal in this deck, when no vamp has superior PRE from start. But I like it, for fun, cause target vitals is nice with the hunters.
OK for KRCG. Mr W, JS and Tasha can go in. But Unmasking... I don´t know. I am not sure I will profit more than others on it in my enviroment. But I guess I can choose not to drop it if in a bad spot.
Thanks for the tips.
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