!Nos Big Caps Combat Toolbox
17 Apr 2012 05:28 - 17 Apr 2012 05:35 #28048
by Jussi

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Banging trashcans, breaking windows
We'll wake you up tonight
We like the good time, we scream and shout
And that's what fun's about
Replied by Jussi on topic Re: !Nos Big Caps Combat Toolbox
Hi, I like the deck quite a lot!
Couple of things come to mind which could improve deck:
- pentex subversion
- haven uncovered (minor pentex)
- lilith's blessing
- ivory bow
- kevlar vest
- guardian angel
and/or
- conditioning
(edit) and/or
- depravity
Smiler and Monsters can go. I don't like Heroic Might, even for it's ranged damage option. I think, that it's just too expensive: rather have murder of crows or extra Fists. I also like panic button option, and for that flesh bond would be great.
Regards!
Couple of things come to mind which could improve deck:
- pentex subversion
- haven uncovered (minor pentex)
- lilith's blessing
- ivory bow
- kevlar vest
- guardian angel
and/or
- conditioning
(edit) and/or
- depravity
Smiler and Monsters can go. I don't like Heroic Might, even for it's ranged damage option. I think, that it's just too expensive: rather have murder of crows or extra Fists. I also like panic button option, and for that flesh bond would be great.
Regards!





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Banging trashcans, breaking windows
We'll wake you up tonight
We like the good time, we scream and shout
And that's what fun's about
Last edit: 17 Apr 2012 05:35 by Jussi.
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17 Apr 2012 10:53 #28065
by Klaital
Replied by Klaital on topic Re: !Nos Big Caps Combat Toolbox
I would replace fists of death with more slams as you are bit low on manuevers while having mainly close range combat. Also the monsters could be changed to raven spies to give you more mileage out of all of those sense the savage ways.
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17 Apr 2012 11:00 - 17 Apr 2012 11:05 #28066
by Suoli
Replied by Suoli on topic Re: !Nos Big Caps Combat Toolbox
No Beast? Big Hands compensate for small Crows.
I would also be tempted to try Nahir. +1 bleed and +X hand size should be great in a deck like this and Swalloweds might as well be Slams and Mighty Grapples.
I would also be tempted to try Nahir. +1 bleed and +X hand size should be great in a deck like this and Swalloweds might as well be Slams and Mighty Grapples.
Last edit: 17 Apr 2012 11:05 by Suoli.
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17 Apr 2012 11:20 #28068
by Pendargon
Replied by Pendargon on topic Re: !Nos Big Caps Combat Toolbox
If i may be so bold, i took the liberty to re-do the deck and slim it down to my preference and playstyle, will try it this weekend :
Alas, i do not own Enkil cog
4x Cailean 10 dom ANI OBF POT PRE !Nosferatu:2
3x Julio Martinez 9 nec ANI DOM OBF POT !Nosferatu:3
2x Mateusz Gryzbowsky 8 ANI OBF POT !Nosferatu:3
1x Ox, Viceroy of the Hollows 6 ANI OBF POT !Nosferatu:2
1x Nigel the shunned
1x Teresita, The Godmother 7 for ANI OBF POT !Nosferatu:3
Library (80 cards)
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Master (13 cards)
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
2x Fame
1x Giant's Blood
1x Information Network
1x Depravity
1x Nosferatu Kingdom
5x Villein
Action (17 cards)
10x Deep Song
2x Heroic Might
3x Preternatural Strength
2x Abbot
Action Modifier (2 cards)
2x Conditioning
Reaction (18 cards)
2x Cats' Guidance
6x Deflection
7x Sense the Savage Way
3x rat's warning
Combat (26 cards)
8x Carrion Crows
2x Slam
9x Immortal Grapple
7x Taste of Vitae
Combo (4 cards)
4x Swallowed by the Night
Alas, i do not own Enkil cog
4x Cailean 10 dom ANI OBF POT PRE !Nosferatu:2
3x Julio Martinez 9 nec ANI DOM OBF POT !Nosferatu:3
2x Mateusz Gryzbowsky 8 ANI OBF POT !Nosferatu:3
1x Ox, Viceroy of the Hollows 6 ANI OBF POT !Nosferatu:2
1x Nigel the shunned
1x Teresita, The Godmother 7 for ANI OBF POT !Nosferatu:3
Library (80 cards)
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Master (13 cards)
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
2x Fame
1x Giant's Blood
1x Information Network
1x Depravity
1x Nosferatu Kingdom
5x Villein
Action (17 cards)
10x Deep Song
2x Heroic Might
3x Preternatural Strength
2x Abbot
Action Modifier (2 cards)
2x Conditioning
Reaction (18 cards)
2x Cats' Guidance
6x Deflection
7x Sense the Savage Way
3x rat's warning
Combat (26 cards)
8x Carrion Crows
2x Slam
9x Immortal Grapple
7x Taste of Vitae
Combo (4 cards)
4x Swallowed by the Night







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17 Apr 2012 11:38 - 17 Apr 2012 11:43 #28069
by Izaak
Replied by Izaak on topic Re: !Nos Big Caps Combat Toolbox
Unbelievable... I did the exact same thing - downsize to 80 and shoehorn in 2 Conditionings and 2 Abbots. I considered a Kevlar Vest too, but decided it's an action you can't afford to take with the few you have available.
What you posted there is almost down to the card what I had made of it when I played around with it a bit. Seriously, this is scary. What I have compared to this is:
-3 rat's warning
-2 Slam
+2 Earthshock
+1 Cat's Guidance
+1 Deep Song
+1 Enkil Cog
It looks pretty nice deck, but in the end it's way too vulnerable to Pentex for my taste. Cailean gets a Pentex and you're basically fucked. I also feel it pretty slow having to bring out multiple fatties without acceleration and forward motion consisting of bleeds for 2 or the occasional Fame dunk.
I have been trying to make ani/dom crypts work for quite a while now and usually end up in group 3/4. I'll certainly give this version a spin on a fridag night session when I get around building some new decks though.
I toyed with that idea, but Beast can't use Deep Song so all he really is is a rush and +1 strength. That's fairly expensive for 7 pool, especially since he can't properly play Sense the Savage Way either and with 10+ Deep Songs it's not like you're going to be short on rush.
What you posted there is almost down to the card what I had made of it when I played around with it a bit. Seriously, this is scary. What I have compared to this is:
-3 rat's warning
-2 Slam
+2 Earthshock
+1 Cat's Guidance
+1 Deep Song
+1 Enkil Cog
It looks pretty nice deck, but in the end it's way too vulnerable to Pentex for my taste. Cailean gets a Pentex and you're basically fucked. I also feel it pretty slow having to bring out multiple fatties without acceleration and forward motion consisting of bleeds for 2 or the occasional Fame dunk.
I have been trying to make ani/dom crypts work for quite a while now and usually end up in group 3/4. I'll certainly give this version a spin on a fridag night session when I get around building some new decks though.
No Beast? Big Hands compensate for small Crows.
I toyed with that idea, but Beast can't use Deep Song so all he really is is a rush and +1 strength. That's fairly expensive for 7 pool, especially since he can't properly play Sense the Savage Way either and with 10+ Deep Songs it's not like you're going to be short on rush.
Last edit: 17 Apr 2012 11:43 by Izaak.
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17 Apr 2012 12:08 #28070
by Pendargon
Replied by Pendargon on topic Re: !Nos Big Caps Combat Toolbox
Not wanting to Hijack the thread, but i have had a considerable success with Ani/dom crypts of Nos/!Nos, both in casual play and in tournaments. No tournament win, but a nice, smooth and dangerous deck :
Crypt : 12
Julio Martinez x3
Gustaphe Brunelle x3
Petra x1
Joseph Cambridge x1
Tarbaby Jack x1
Jeremy "wix" Wychowsky x1
Stick x1
Harold Tanner x1
Library: 80
Master : 10
Pentex Subversion x1
Animalism x2
Dominate x1
Tension x1
Fame x2
Dreams of the Sphinx x2
Vox Domini x1
Action : 14
Govern The Unaligned x9
Deep song x5
Action modifier : 19
Conditioning x5
Mouthpiece x1
Swallowed by the night x3
Cloak the gathering x3
Veil the legions x2
Lost in crowds x3
Faceless night x2
Reaction : 14
Sense the savage way x3
Rat's warning x3
On the qui vive x2
Deflection x6
Combat : 23
Carrion crows x9
Aid from bats x10
Taste of Vitae x3
Canine horde x1
Crypt : 12
Julio Martinez x3
Gustaphe Brunelle x3
Petra x1
Joseph Cambridge x1
Tarbaby Jack x1
Jeremy "wix" Wychowsky x1
Stick x1
Harold Tanner x1
Library: 80
Master : 10
Pentex Subversion x1
Animalism x2
Dominate x1
Tension x1
Fame x2
Dreams of the Sphinx x2
Vox Domini x1
Action : 14
Govern The Unaligned x9
Deep song x5
Action modifier : 19
Conditioning x5
Mouthpiece x1
Swallowed by the night x3
Cloak the gathering x3
Veil the legions x2
Lost in crowds x3
Faceless night x2
Reaction : 14
Sense the savage way x3
Rat's warning x3
On the qui vive x2
Deflection x6
Combat : 23
Carrion crows x9
Aid from bats x10
Taste of Vitae x3
Canine horde x1







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