file Shalmaths wally toolbox

30 Apr 2011 15:24 - 30 Apr 2011 15:26 #3975 by wastaz
Replied by wastaz on topic Re: Shalmaths wally toolbox

Procurer is probably better than Palatial Estate. Have some chump recruit it so Shalmath doesn't have to invest his precious blood in it.


I'm not sure that I agree with you here. Procurer has to take an action (that could be blocked) to give a blood. The palatial estate gives one automatically. The procurer can give blood to any vampire, but I'm probably not going to want to give anyone other than Shalmath blood unless everything is going really bad. I'll do some playtesting and keep it in mind and see if switching in procurer seems good :)


Well, sure, the action is blockable but it's at 2 stealth and you have Shalmath waiting to inflict who knows what horrors. As long as Shalmath hasn't used his actions yet people tend to place very low priority on blocking Procurer.

The problem with Palatial Estate is that it takes 4 turns for it to be better than a cardless hunt action.



I might be derailing this a bit, but I'm still a new player so I'm taking every chance to learn that I can. :)

I still don't really see how procurer is better in this case. Procurer and Palatial estate both cost the same amount of blood so they'd both take 4 turns to become better than a cardless hunt action. Procurer -could- block a no-stealth action and give a blood to one of the weenies, so I can see that those things would be an argument in that cards favour. But apart from that, am I missing something?

Edit: Ah, of course, Shalmath wouldn't have to be the one who recruits the procurer, but he'd have to be the one to equip the palatial estate. That's what I'm missing, right?
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30 Apr 2011 16:21 #3977 by Suoli
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Edit: Ah, of course, Shalmath wouldn't have to be the one who recruits the procurer, but he'd have to be the one to equip the palatial estate. That's what I'm missing, right?


Yes, that's right.

I just noticed you didn't include Eye of Hazimel in your deck list. I can't blame you, it's 3 pool and an upkeep to pay every turn for a bunch of effects that seem to have zero synergy with your game plan. But with Madness Network the permanent rush alone is worth well over 3 pool. It means that your prey can't push forward while completely ignoring you, you can get rid of minions that you can't block, you'll have leverage in table politics and so on. It's basically Smiling Jack on crack. Basic rush cards might seem like a cheaper option but they're useless in the early game and can't viably provide the 5 rushes per round you'll want when you lunge.

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