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also tupdogs can cycle your crypt faster without putting too much of a particular vamp. When the tupdogs burn you get free refill so its okay as a concept.

I like the concept, but I think it would be better executed with just Reg and NEC mid-caps. Le Dihn Tho, Rudolpho Giovanni and Isabell all have superior NEC for less than 6 pool. They also bring dominate to the table, which I hear is good for defense and ally management.

So with this you got deflection and you got allies with mean equipment. What you need next is ways to pay for thoses allies and equipment without ousting yourself. Obviously Little Mountain Cemetery don't work here, and villeins/vessel are counterproductive as bloat in a shambling deck.

With all that said and done, I'd go with, surprise surprise, dominate bloat. Add some dominate masters and maybe gloria giovanni and swap all your LMC for GtU, which you use primaraly as bloat and not bleed.

I'll draft a version of my own so you can see what you think about it.

I like the deck, but how do you prevent your geared up allies from just getting stolen? I know that every deck I play with presence or dominate has a few ally theft cards.

Franz wrote:

I like the concept, but I think it would be better executed with just Reg and NEC mid-caps. Le Dihn Tho, Rudolpho Giovanni and Isabell all have superior NEC for less than 6 pool. They also bring dominate to the table, which I hear is good for defense and ally management.

Or, in the lack of Le Din Tho and Isabella, I could go with G2 Harbingers. With shared AUS I'd have an option for bounce, as well as extra blocking capabilities to deal with votes and far mastery. Giovanni aren't too bad an option either, but my selection of them is a bit limited.

Oh, oh! If I decide to try it out with Giovanni, obviously I'll need to add that unique equipment which slowly builds me levels of dominate and fortitude, and obviously the +1 bleed! I can't remember the name of the card though.

So with this you got deflection and you got allies with mean equipment. What you need next is ways to pay for thoses allies and equipment without ousting yourself. Obviously Little Mountain Cemetery don't work here, and villeins/vessel are counterproductive as bloat in a shambling deck.

Yes, good points - both of which I think skimmed through my mind but I didn't stop and dwell on the issues.

With all that said and done, I'd go with, surprise surprise, dominate bloat. Add some dominate masters and maybe gloria giovanni and swap all your LMC for GtU, which you use primaraly as bloat and not bleed.

I'll draft a version of my own so you can see what you think about it.

Cheers! I'll be curious to see what you'll conjure up. I'm hoping to play a version of my own next week. Too bad I have a crucial problem: I don't own Carlton of my own, so I'll need to survive with the rest of the allies.

I am responding to this deck, since I play these clans and disciplines. I can confirm, that various combinations of Samedi, Giovanni, Harbingers and Nagaraja work quite fine. Access to DOM, AUS, FOR and NEC can be very nice As for myself, I usually go for AUS FOR NEC or DOM NEC.

blackday wrote:

also tupdogs can cycle your crypt faster without putting too much of a particular vamp. When the tupdogs burn you get free refill so its okay as a concept.

Also, bringing out a Tupdog as you first minion often causes people next to you ponder whether they should bring out their first minion immediately or should they actually be waiting to bring several at one go. Them getting slower start due to misbelieving the deck to be a Tupdog deck will probably play to your advantage