file ToF luck to you

06 Mar 2013 18:19 - 06 Mar 2013 18:35 #45797 by Killjoy71
ToF luck to you was created by Killjoy71
Hi folks!!!

It's been awhile since I last posted. I have always wanted to use Treaty of Laibach and this what i came up with! Your comments and advice are very much appreciated!

  • How do you intend to oust?
  • Tempataion and Smiling jack

  • How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
  • Deflect, block and steal blood

  • What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
  • 3 vamps

  • What do you want your average turn to look like?
  • Tempt a vamp, Untap with Rutor's Hand then bleed or wait to block.

  • What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
  • A bit of everything.

  • What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
  • I have not played this deck yet. All the reason more for your feedback.







    Deck Name : TOF luck to you
    Author : Dean GARRATT
    Description :



    Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 10 average: 7.58333
    2x Nakhthorheb (10) :OBF: :PRE: :SER: Follower of Set (group 4)
    2x Gerald Windham (9) :AUS: :DOM: :FOR: :THA: Tremere (group 5)
    2x Neferu (9) :OBF: :PRE: :SER: :THA: :dom: :nec: 2 votes Follower of Set (group 4)
    2x Halim Bey (6) :DOM: :SER: :obf: :tha: Follower of Set (group 4)
    2x Zane (5) :THA: :aus: :dom: primogen Tremere (group 5)
    1x Rutor (7) :AUS: :DOM: :THA: :pro: :vic: Tremere (group 5)
    1x Lord Ephraim Wainwright (6) :AUS: :THA: :for: :pre: Tremere (group 5)


    Library [90 cards]

    Action [26]
    10x Cryptic Mission
    2x Enticement
    5x Rutor's Hand
    9x Temptation

    Action Modifier [16]
    2x Conditioning
    6x Mirror Walk
    2x Truth of a Thousand Lies
    6x Veil the Legions

    Ally [1]
    1x Ponticulus

    Combat [20]
    9x Apportation
    2x Flames of the Netherworld
    9x Theft of Vitae

    Master [16]
    7x Eternals of Sirius, The
    1x Lilith's Blessing
    2x Smiling Jack, The Anarch
    2x Treaty of Laibach
    2x Vessel
    2x Villein
    1x Wider View

    Reaction [10]
    5x Deflection
    3x Eyes of Argus
    2x On the Qui Vive

    VTES is not for the faint of heart...especially when you don't have a enough blood.

    Prince Of Geneva
    Last edit: 06 Mar 2013 18:35 by Killjoy71.

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    06 Mar 2013 18:44 #45801 by Ohlmann
    Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: ToF luck to you
    You seem to be neither blocky nor rushy, so 20 combat card may be a bit overdone. I would keep only 10 of them.

    7 Eternal with 4 target seem a bit high. You can cycle them as Ascendance, but still...

    For the blood attrition module, a Vampiric Disease and maybe some blood-burning ally (Impundulu come into mind) may help, as well as using less big vampires ; after all, you only really need thaumaturgie and/or serpentis on your vampires.

    For the crypt, I would advice Muhsin Samir and Preston Varrick at the very least, for example each in x1 instead of 1 Gerald and 1 Rutor. MacAlister Marshall seem also a good fit.

    The deck don't seem to have what it take to defend a Smiling Jack in my opinion.

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    10 Mar 2013 06:13 #45927 by aria
    Replied by aria on topic Re: ToF luck to you
    Posted that once :

    It may give you some idea.


    what can we do with treaty of laibach?

    tempt your predator, corrupt your prey and bleed for 1. This kind of deck should work fine with lot of inner circle- villein decks metagame.

    Deck Name: treaty of laibach
    Author: aria
    Description:


    Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=2 max=5 avg=3.33)
    ===============================================
    1x Blythe Candeleria 3 aus THA Tremere:2
    1x Celine Chevalier 3 obf ser Follower of Set:2
    2x Dedefra 5 nec obf SER Follower of Set:2
    1x Dr. John Casey 3 aus tha Tremere:1
    1x Jing Wei 3 dom tha Tremere:1
    1x Khalil Anvari 3 pre ser Follower of Set:2
    1x Lalitha 2 ser Follower of Set:2
    1x Magdelena Schaefer 2 THA Caitiff:2
    1x Merrill Molitor 5 aus dom THA Tremere:1
    1x Roreca Quaid 2 tha Tremere:1
    1x Sarah Cobbler 4 dom THA Tremere:1

    Library (81 cards)
    ==================
    Master (15)
    1x Arcane Library
    1x Chantry
    2x Serpentis
    2x Thaumaturgy
    3x Treaty of Laibach
    1x Tremere Convocation
    4x Tribute to the Master
    1x Wasserschloss Anif, Austria

    Event (3)
    1x Hunger Moon
    1x Narrow Minds
    1x Restricted Vitae

    Action (35)
    20x Cryptic Mission
    4x Enticement
    4x Form of Corruption
    1x Seeds of Corruption
    2x Set's Curse
    4x Temptation

    Ally (5)
    1x Amam the Devourer (Bane Mummy)
    1x Gregory Winter
    1x Impundulu
    1x Ossian
    1x Ponticulus

    Action Modifier (7)
    7x Mirror Walk

    Reaction (6)
    4x Deflection
    2x On the Qui Vive

    Combat (10)
    4x Apportation
    6x Theft of Vitae

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    10 Mar 2013 07:11 #45929 by ReverendRevolver
    You have lots of big vamps, some smaller ones,loads of combat (too much) and you still fall to 1 agg. You have access to plenty of cards to fix this, from heart of darkness to skin of adder to tbe blantant end all be all of prevention for tham, rego motus. Use them.
    As for the rest, either treaty things or go solid serpents for your bigs and tremere for supporters. It seems too top heavy right now. Moving to a villein eternals lilliths setup lets you bloat, and you can bolt on skill cards as needed. It just seems to unfocused, like a two in one deck. Ive made a great number of successful two archetypes in one deck things, namely weenie dom for sticks, infinate earth meld harold and satyrs, and to a lesser extent, ventrue or !ventrue with obf, grinders or lawfirm with good old dom obf s and b. But you seem to want a carna style attrition jack wall with tremere while running a setite deck that also attritions, but with very scarce discipline overlap.
    Streamlining is key.

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