ToF luck to you
06 Mar 2013 18:19 - 06 Mar 2013 18:35 #45797
by Killjoy71
VTES is not for the faint of heart...especially when you don't have a enough blood.
Prince Of Geneva
ToF luck to you was created by Killjoy71
Hi folks!!!
It's been awhile since I last posted. I have always wanted to use Treaty of Laibach and this what i came up with! Your comments and advice are very much appreciated!
Deck Name : TOF luck to you
Author : Dean GARRATT
Description :
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 10 average: 7.58333
2x Nakhthorheb (10)
Follower of Set (group 4)
2x Gerald Windham (9)
Tremere (group 5)
2x Neferu (9)
2 votes Follower of Set (group 4)
2x Halim Bey (6)
Follower of Set (group 4)
2x Zane (5)
primogen Tremere (group 5)
1x Rutor (7)
Tremere (group 5)
1x Lord Ephraim Wainwright (6)
Tremere (group 5)
Library [90 cards]
Action [26]
10x Cryptic Mission
2x Enticement
5x Rutor's Hand
9x Temptation
Action Modifier [16]
2x Conditioning
6x Mirror Walk
2x Truth of a Thousand Lies
6x Veil the Legions
Ally [1]
1x Ponticulus
Combat [20]
9x Apportation
2x Flames of the Netherworld
9x Theft of Vitae
Master [16]
7x Eternals of Sirius, The
1x Lilith's Blessing
2x Smiling Jack, The Anarch
2x Treaty of Laibach
2x Vessel
2x Villein
1x Wider View
Reaction [10]
5x Deflection
3x Eyes of Argus
2x On the Qui Vive
It's been awhile since I last posted. I have always wanted to use Treaty of Laibach and this what i came up with! Your comments and advice are very much appreciated!
Tempataion and Smiling jack
How do you intend to oust?
Deflect, block and steal blood
How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
3 vamps
What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
Tempt a vamp, Untap with Rutor's Hand then bleed or wait to block.
What do you want your average turn to look like?
A bit of everything.
What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
I have not played this deck yet. All the reason more for your feedback.
What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
Deck Name : TOF luck to you
Author : Dean GARRATT
Description :
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 5 max: 10 average: 7.58333
2x Nakhthorheb (10)



2x Gerald Windham (9)




2x Neferu (9)






2x Halim Bey (6)




2x Zane (5)



1x Rutor (7)





1x Lord Ephraim Wainwright (6)




Library [90 cards]
Action [26]
10x Cryptic Mission
2x Enticement
5x Rutor's Hand
9x Temptation
Action Modifier [16]
2x Conditioning
6x Mirror Walk
2x Truth of a Thousand Lies
6x Veil the Legions
Ally [1]
1x Ponticulus
Combat [20]
9x Apportation
2x Flames of the Netherworld
9x Theft of Vitae
Master [16]
7x Eternals of Sirius, The
1x Lilith's Blessing
2x Smiling Jack, The Anarch
2x Treaty of Laibach
2x Vessel
2x Villein
1x Wider View
Reaction [10]
5x Deflection
3x Eyes of Argus
2x On the Qui Vive
VTES is not for the faint of heart...especially when you don't have a enough blood.
Prince Of Geneva
Last edit: 06 Mar 2013 18:35 by Killjoy71.
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06 Mar 2013 18:44 #45801
by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: ToF luck to you
You seem to be neither blocky nor rushy, so 20 combat card may be a bit overdone. I would keep only 10 of them.
7 Eternal with 4 target seem a bit high. You can cycle them as Ascendance, but still...
For the blood attrition module, a Vampiric Disease and maybe some blood-burning ally (Impundulu come into mind) may help, as well as using less big vampires ; after all, you only really need thaumaturgie and/or serpentis on your vampires.
For the crypt, I would advice Muhsin Samir and Preston Varrick at the very least, for example each in x1 instead of 1 Gerald and 1 Rutor. MacAlister Marshall seem also a good fit.
The deck don't seem to have what it take to defend a Smiling Jack in my opinion.
7 Eternal with 4 target seem a bit high. You can cycle them as Ascendance, but still...
For the blood attrition module, a Vampiric Disease and maybe some blood-burning ally (Impundulu come into mind) may help, as well as using less big vampires ; after all, you only really need thaumaturgie and/or serpentis on your vampires.
For the crypt, I would advice Muhsin Samir and Preston Varrick at the very least, for example each in x1 instead of 1 Gerald and 1 Rutor. MacAlister Marshall seem also a good fit.
The deck don't seem to have what it take to defend a Smiling Jack in my opinion.
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10 Mar 2013 06:13 #45927
by aria
Replied by aria on topic Re: ToF luck to you
Posted that once :
It may give you some idea.
what can we do with treaty of laibach?
tempt your predator, corrupt your prey and bleed for 1. This kind of deck should work fine with lot of inner circle- villein decks metagame.
Deck Name: treaty of laibach
Author: aria
Description:
Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=2 max=5 avg=3.33)
===============================================
1x Blythe Candeleria 3 aus THA Tremere:2
1x Celine Chevalier 3 obf ser Follower of Set:2
2x Dedefra 5 nec obf SER Follower of Set:2
1x Dr. John Casey 3 aus tha Tremere:1
1x Jing Wei 3 dom tha Tremere:1
1x Khalil Anvari 3 pre ser Follower of Set:2
1x Lalitha 2 ser Follower of Set:2
1x Magdelena Schaefer 2 THA Caitiff:2
1x Merrill Molitor 5 aus dom THA Tremere:1
1x Roreca Quaid 2 tha Tremere:1
1x Sarah Cobbler 4 dom THA Tremere:1
Library (81 cards)
==================
Master (15)
1x Arcane Library
1x Chantry
2x Serpentis
2x Thaumaturgy
3x Treaty of Laibach
1x Tremere Convocation
4x Tribute to the Master
1x Wasserschloss Anif, Austria
Event (3)
1x Hunger Moon
1x Narrow Minds
1x Restricted Vitae
Action (35)
20x Cryptic Mission
4x Enticement
4x Form of Corruption
1x Seeds of Corruption
2x Set's Curse
4x Temptation
Ally (5)
1x Amam the Devourer (Bane Mummy)
1x Gregory Winter
1x Impundulu
1x Ossian
1x Ponticulus
Action Modifier (7)
7x Mirror Walk
Reaction (6)
4x Deflection
2x On the Qui Vive
Combat (10)
4x Apportation
6x Theft of Vitae
It may give you some idea.
what can we do with treaty of laibach?
tempt your predator, corrupt your prey and bleed for 1. This kind of deck should work fine with lot of inner circle- villein decks metagame.
Deck Name: treaty of laibach
Author: aria
Description:
Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=2 max=5 avg=3.33)
===============================================
1x Blythe Candeleria 3 aus THA Tremere:2
1x Celine Chevalier 3 obf ser Follower of Set:2
2x Dedefra 5 nec obf SER Follower of Set:2
1x Dr. John Casey 3 aus tha Tremere:1
1x Jing Wei 3 dom tha Tremere:1
1x Khalil Anvari 3 pre ser Follower of Set:2
1x Lalitha 2 ser Follower of Set:2
1x Magdelena Schaefer 2 THA Caitiff:2
1x Merrill Molitor 5 aus dom THA Tremere:1
1x Roreca Quaid 2 tha Tremere:1
1x Sarah Cobbler 4 dom THA Tremere:1
Library (81 cards)
==================
Master (15)
1x Arcane Library
1x Chantry
2x Serpentis
2x Thaumaturgy
3x Treaty of Laibach
1x Tremere Convocation
4x Tribute to the Master
1x Wasserschloss Anif, Austria
Event (3)
1x Hunger Moon
1x Narrow Minds
1x Restricted Vitae
Action (35)
20x Cryptic Mission
4x Enticement
4x Form of Corruption
1x Seeds of Corruption
2x Set's Curse
4x Temptation
Ally (5)
1x Amam the Devourer (Bane Mummy)
1x Gregory Winter
1x Impundulu
1x Ossian
1x Ponticulus
Action Modifier (7)
7x Mirror Walk
Reaction (6)
4x Deflection
2x On the Qui Vive
Combat (10)
4x Apportation
6x Theft of Vitae
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10 Mar 2013 07:11 #45929
by ReverendRevolver
Replied by ReverendRevolver on topic Re: ToF luck to you
You have lots of big vamps, some smaller ones,loads of combat (too much) and you still fall to 1 agg. You have access to plenty of cards to fix this, from heart of darkness to skin of adder to tbe blantant end all be all of prevention for tham, rego motus. Use them.
As for the rest, either treaty things or go solid serpents for your bigs and tremere for supporters. It seems too top heavy right now. Moving to a villein eternals lilliths setup lets you bloat, and you can bolt on skill cards as needed. It just seems to unfocused, like a two in one deck. Ive made a great number of successful two archetypes in one deck things, namely weenie dom for sticks, infinate earth meld harold and satyrs, and to a lesser extent, ventrue or !ventrue with obf, grinders or lawfirm with good old dom obf s and b. But you seem to want a carna style attrition jack wall with tremere while running a setite deck that also attritions, but with very scarce discipline overlap.
Streamlining is key.
As for the rest, either treaty things or go solid serpents for your bigs and tremere for supporters. It seems too top heavy right now. Moving to a villein eternals lilliths setup lets you bloat, and you can bolt on skill cards as needed. It just seems to unfocused, like a two in one deck. Ive made a great number of successful two archetypes in one deck things, namely weenie dom for sticks, infinate earth meld harold and satyrs, and to a lesser extent, ventrue or !ventrue with obf, grinders or lawfirm with good old dom obf s and b. But you seem to want a carna style attrition jack wall with tremere while running a setite deck that also attritions, but with very scarce discipline overlap.
Streamlining is key.
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