Lucian's Bleed Beyond Imagination
07 Jun 2011 10:20 - 07 Jun 2011 11:49 #4936
by Exposer
NC Belarus
Lucian's Bleed Beyond Imagination was created by Exposer
Deck Name: Lucian's Bleed Beyond Imagination
Created By: Anton Dudko
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 12, Max: 44, Avg: 6,58)
5 Lucian, the Perfect
Guruhi
1 Ember Wright aus dom 3 Tremere Antitribu
1 Guedado aus obf vic 4 Tzimisce
1 Kamaria aus pot 3 Osebo
1 Nkechi val aus for 4 Salubri Antitribu
1 Prejudice aus dom nec 4 Nagaraja
1 Saiz aus dom 3 Tremere Antitribu
1 Sister Evelyn aus dom 3 Ventrue Antitribu
Library: (90 cards)
Master (30 cards)
3 Aye
2 Blind Spot
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Giant`s Blood
2 Information Highway
1 Metro Underground
1 Monastery of Shadows
9 Orun
1 Parthenon, The
1 Pentex Subversion
6 Static Virtue
1 Transcendent Laibon
Action (15 cards)
8 Brutal Influence
7 Revelations
Action Modifier (21 cards)
2 Approximation of Loyalty
3 Cloak the Gathering
4 Conditioning
2 Elder Impersonation
2 Lost in Crowds
3 Spying Mission
2 Veil the Legions
1 Enkil Cog
1 Edge of the World
1 Strange Day
Reaction (23 cards)
10 Deflection
7 Obedience
1 Read the Winds
5 Sense the Savage Way
Combat (1 cards)
1 Majesty
This deck was last saved at 15:16:20 on 07.06.2011
How do you intend to oust?
Bleed.
How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Deflections versus bleed. Obediense versus rush. Light intercept with 3 Ayes versus other dirty things. Superior BI during hard times. Transcendent Laibon against Tupdogs and some allies.
What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
Lucian with 2-4
buddies.
What do you want your average turn to look like?
Dreams or Info Highway for quick Lucian. Orun as triffle, Static Virtue for fastest Orun Setup. First bleed action with BI for 9 + 4 w/Conditioning. Enkil Cog + other Oruns at later turns. Little friends may play Revelations, Deflections, Conditioning.
What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
The biggest problem is the fear of Archon Investigation. But we have the answer here.
Your thoughts?
Created By: Anton Dudko
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 12, Max: 44, Avg: 6,58)
5 Lucian, the Perfect







1 Ember Wright aus dom 3 Tremere Antitribu
1 Guedado aus obf vic 4 Tzimisce
1 Kamaria aus pot 3 Osebo
1 Nkechi val aus for 4 Salubri Antitribu
1 Prejudice aus dom nec 4 Nagaraja
1 Saiz aus dom 3 Tremere Antitribu
1 Sister Evelyn aus dom 3 Ventrue Antitribu
Library: (90 cards)
Master (30 cards)
3 Aye
2 Blind Spot
2 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Giant`s Blood
2 Information Highway
1 Metro Underground
1 Monastery of Shadows
9 Orun
1 Parthenon, The
1 Pentex Subversion
6 Static Virtue
1 Transcendent Laibon
Action (15 cards)
8 Brutal Influence
7 Revelations
Action Modifier (21 cards)
2 Approximation of Loyalty
3 Cloak the Gathering
4 Conditioning
2 Elder Impersonation
2 Lost in Crowds
3 Spying Mission
2 Veil the Legions
1 Enkil Cog
1 Edge of the World
1 Strange Day
Reaction (23 cards)
10 Deflection
7 Obedience
1 Read the Winds
5 Sense the Savage Way
Combat (1 cards)
1 Majesty
This deck was last saved at 15:16:20 on 07.06.2011
How do you intend to oust?
Bleed.
How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
Deflections versus bleed. Obediense versus rush. Light intercept with 3 Ayes versus other dirty things. Superior BI during hard times. Transcendent Laibon against Tupdogs and some allies.
What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
Lucian with 2-4

What do you want your average turn to look like?
Dreams or Info Highway for quick Lucian. Orun as triffle, Static Virtue for fastest Orun Setup. First bleed action with BI for 9 + 4 w/Conditioning. Enkil Cog + other Oruns at later turns. Little friends may play Revelations, Deflections, Conditioning.
What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
The biggest problem is the fear of Archon Investigation. But we have the answer here.
Your thoughts?
NC Belarus
Last edit: 07 Jun 2011 11:49 by Exposer.
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07 Jun 2011 10:52 - 07 Jun 2011 11:08 #4938
by Boris The Blade
Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Re: Lucian's Bleed Beyond Imagination
If you are going to play Aye, at least add Dusk Work so you do not need 2 minions to play Revelations + Brutal Influence. But I think you would be better off with Orun only: you need to draw them fast and you already have access to plenty of real untap that combine with Enkil Cog.
You probably should not play more than 60 cards in this deck.
You also need something against Aksinya, since all your anti-bounce does not work against her. Tapping her or Exile work.
You probably should not play more than 60 cards in this deck.
You also need something against Aksinya, since all your anti-bounce does not work against her. Tapping her or Exile work.
Last edit: 07 Jun 2011 11:08 by Boris The Blade.
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07 Jun 2011 11:24 - 07 Jun 2011 11:26 #4939
by Exposer
NC Belarus
Replied by Exposer on topic Re: Lucian's Bleed Beyond Imagination
I played with Orun/Aye mechanic a lot. So I descided that this Static Virtue tech fits more for this deck. Static Virtue make it faster. Also, SV played at the beginning shorts the deck for 6 cards.
Tangle's Atropos Hand, Exile are good cards here.
I think, I should try them.
Tangle's Atropos Hand, Exile are good cards here.
I think, I should try them.
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Last edit: 07 Jun 2011 11:26 by Exposer.
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08 Jun 2011 16:04 #4962
by TryDeflectingThisGrapple
Replied by TryDeflectingThisGrapple on topic Re: Lucian's Bleed Beyond Imagination
I thought I had posted a reply, but I don't see it.
At any rate, this is a VERY nice deck. It addresses most of the problems in decks with Oruned Lucian.
The only things I might suggest are:
1) Trim it to 72-80 cards. You'll see single copies more and still have plenty of ousting power. I would love to see it trimmed it even more (68-72), but I think the Aye/Orun mechanic is too card intensive for that to be practical.
2) To address Shambler/War Ghoul/Garou/Imbued rush, find 1-2 slots for Entrancement. Preventing rushes while gaining blocks against future rushes is priceless. Stealing Carlton does suck either. Added benefit, cycles easily if you don't have a Brutal in hand, (no additional Orun cost since Lucian burns Orun on every bleed anyway).
3) Slot in Mylan Horseed. Powers too many options to not include at the cost of 1 slot.
4) Maybe a bit cornercase, but Blithe Acceptance? You're a little short on stealth and the Obedience module has great synergy. Obedience is before combat, BA blood cost kicks in at start of combat. I think it depends on how quickly you want to start banging on your prey, and you may be going too fast to worry about it.
At any rate, this is a VERY nice deck. It addresses most of the problems in decks with Oruned Lucian.
The only things I might suggest are:
1) Trim it to 72-80 cards. You'll see single copies more and still have plenty of ousting power. I would love to see it trimmed it even more (68-72), but I think the Aye/Orun mechanic is too card intensive for that to be practical.
2) To address Shambler/War Ghoul/Garou/Imbued rush, find 1-2 slots for Entrancement. Preventing rushes while gaining blocks against future rushes is priceless. Stealing Carlton does suck either. Added benefit, cycles easily if you don't have a Brutal in hand, (no additional Orun cost since Lucian burns Orun on every bleed anyway).
3) Slot in Mylan Horseed. Powers too many options to not include at the cost of 1 slot.
4) Maybe a bit cornercase, but Blithe Acceptance? You're a little short on stealth and the Obedience module has great synergy. Obedience is before combat, BA blood cost kicks in at start of combat. I think it depends on how quickly you want to start banging on your prey, and you may be going too fast to worry about it.
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08 Jun 2011 20:53 #4966
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Lucian's Bleed Beyond Imagination
With this kind of "Cannon" type approach to bleeding, I do think that you should consider putting in another Edge of the World. It is not a "once per game" card, but it is once per oust... and since most of the time it will be with Lucian there is a great advantage in a refill +4 pool and untap. I've got 2 of this card in my own Orun-driven Brutal Influence deck and because of the way I play the deck, I tend to always have one in hand when I want to go for the kill. 10 pool is a big swing and so is a full 10+ cap.





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08 Jun 2011 23:03 #4967
by Klaital
Replied by Klaital on topic Re: Lucian's Bleed Beyond Imagination
You really should put Bitter and Sweet Story in decks like this always.
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