Gratiano, mr cheaterpants
28 Jun 2013 00:26 - 28 Jun 2013 01:32 #50616
by brandonsantacruz
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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Gratiano, mr cheaterpants was created by brandonsantacruz
Deck Name: Gratiano, mr cheaterpants
Author: Brandon Haas
Description: Use Gratiano's ability to get around Free States Rant's voting reduction clause. Do tricky stuff with Temptation. Win.
Gratiano
[obf][pot][DOM][OBT]
[Lasombra]
Capacity: 8
Group: 2
Sabbat priscus: Gratiano gets one additional ballot. +1 bleed.
Free States Rant
[Political Action]
Requires an Independent vampire.
Allocate X points among one or more ready vampires, where X is half the capacity of the acting vampire (rounded up). No more than 3 points can be allocated to each vampire. Successful referendum means each vampire burns 1 blood for each point assigned. In this referendum, non-priscus titles are worth 1 fewer vote each, priscus title is worth 1 less ballot, and burning the Edge is worth an additional vote.
Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=4 max=8 avg=7.67)
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3x Amisa 8 pre pro OBF SER Follower
5x Gratiano 8 obf pot DOM OBT Lasombra:2
3x Kephamos, High Priest of Marrakech 8 dom obf pre SER Follower
1x Michael Luther 4 aus pre Toreador:3
Library (81 cards)
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Master (12)
1x Direct Intervention
1x Fear of Mekhet
1x Ferraille
2x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
4x Obfuscate
1x Opium Den
1x Perfectionist
1x Powerbase: Madrid
Action (21)
1x Conceal
8x Govern the Unaligned
4x Shadow Twin
6x Temptation
2x Waters of Duat
Political Action (7)
5x Free States Rant
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power
Equipment (1)
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Ally (7)
1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin)
6x Nocturn
Action Modifier (15)
6x Cloak the Gathering
2x Empowering the Puppet King
2x Faceless Night
3x Into Thin Air
2x Veil the Legions
Reaction (18)
8x Deflection
6x On the Qui Vive
4x Wake with Evening's Freshness
Created with Secret Library v0.9.4a. (Jun 28, 2013 05:20:43)
Author: Brandon Haas
Description: Use Gratiano's ability to get around Free States Rant's voting reduction clause. Do tricky stuff with Temptation. Win.
Gratiano
[obf][pot][DOM][OBT]
[Lasombra]
Capacity: 8
Group: 2
Sabbat priscus: Gratiano gets one additional ballot. +1 bleed.
Free States Rant
[Political Action]
Requires an Independent vampire.
Allocate X points among one or more ready vampires, where X is half the capacity of the acting vampire (rounded up). No more than 3 points can be allocated to each vampire. Successful referendum means each vampire burns 1 blood for each point assigned. In this referendum, non-priscus titles are worth 1 fewer vote each, priscus title is worth 1 less ballot, and burning the Edge is worth an additional vote.
Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=4 max=8 avg=7.67)
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3x Amisa 8 pre pro OBF SER Follower
5x Gratiano 8 obf pot DOM OBT Lasombra:2
3x Kephamos, High Priest of Marrakech 8 dom obf pre SER Follower
1x Michael Luther 4 aus pre Toreador:3
Library (81 cards)
==================
Master (12)
1x Direct Intervention
1x Fear of Mekhet
1x Ferraille
2x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
4x Obfuscate
1x Opium Den
1x Perfectionist
1x Powerbase: Madrid
Action (21)
1x Conceal
8x Govern the Unaligned
4x Shadow Twin
6x Temptation
2x Waters of Duat
Political Action (7)
5x Free States Rant
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power
Equipment (1)
1x Heart of Nizchetus
Ally (7)
1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin)
6x Nocturn
Action Modifier (15)
6x Cloak the Gathering
2x Empowering the Puppet King
2x Faceless Night
3x Into Thin Air
2x Veil the Legions
Reaction (18)
8x Deflection
6x On the Qui Vive
4x Wake with Evening's Freshness
Created with Secret Library v0.9.4a. (Jun 28, 2013 05:20:43)
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/
Last edit: 28 Jun 2013 01:32 by brandonsantacruz. Reason: Forgot Powerbase: Madrid
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28 Jun 2013 10:48 #50642
by Adonai
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28 Jun 2013 12:41 #50647
by Brum
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Isn't it better just to Mind Rape + Heidelberg?
That way you get to use the blood you move on your own guys and the tempted guy acts twice on your behalf.
Less moving parts, less cards, more win(?).
I'm not trying to be an ass, but... using Lasombra to backup Temptation does not seem very strong. Free States Rants is slow and you want the same guys doing them AND also doing Temptation, with only Mylan to untap them.
That way you get to use the blood you move on your own guys and the tempted guy acts twice on your behalf.
Less moving parts, less cards, more win(?).
I'm not trying to be an ass, but... using Lasombra to backup Temptation does not seem very strong. Free States Rants is slow and you want the same guys doing them AND also doing Temptation, with only Mylan to untap them.
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29 Jun 2013 01:36 #50707
by brandonsantacruz
Dominate adds defense, gratiano has as many votes as an ic under fsr and +1 bleed. Legendary vamp is a good choice. In a 90 card deck I'd have at least 1. For vote push I'd go for old friends before presence.
Could graft ser with book of going forth by night and use truth of a thousand lies for untaps.
Main strategy is to get about 2 eight caps and graft OBF on gratiano for govern at DOM, then tempt for vote control and extra bleed. Steal a big dude from ur pred and call reins of power or anyone and pol stranglehold. Self tempt for multi acting too.
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/
Replied by brandonsantacruz on topic Re: Gratiano, mr cheaterpants
Isn't it better just to Mind Rape + Heidelberg?
That way you get to use the blood you move on your own guys and the tempted guy acts twice on your behalf.
Less moving parts, less cards, more win(?).
I'm not trying to be an ass, but... using Lasombra to backup Temptation does not seem very strong. Free States Rants is slow and you want the same guys doing them AND also doing Temptation, with only Mylan to untap them.
Dominate adds defense, gratiano has as many votes as an ic under fsr and +1 bleed. Legendary vamp is a good choice. In a 90 card deck I'd have at least 1. For vote push I'd go for old friends before presence.
Could graft ser with book of going forth by night and use truth of a thousand lies for untaps.
Main strategy is to get about 2 eight caps and graft OBF on gratiano for govern at DOM, then tempt for vote control and extra bleed. Steal a big dude from ur pred and call reins of power or anyone and pol stranglehold. Self tempt for multi acting too.
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
brandonsantacruz.blogspot.com/
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29 Jun 2013 13:31 #50724
by Reyda
Imagination is our only weapon in the war against reality -Jules de Gaultier
Replied by Reyda on topic Re: Gratiano, mr cheaterpants
no room for a couple Society of Leopold ?

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