Second Seraph
17 Jun 2011 13:04 - 17 Jun 2011 13:06 #5256
by hardyrange
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Replied by hardyrange on topic Re: Second Seraph
See here for a deck using the same basic approach (Assamite Seraph multi-act) that won a tournament:
www.thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm#2011zban
(Yes, it uses Art of Memory B) )
www.thelasombra.com/decks/twd.htm#2011zban
(Yes, it uses Art of Memory B) )
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17 Jun 2011 13:06 #5257
by Pendargon
Replied by Pendargon on topic Re: Second Seraph
@hardyrange
Don't know if you noticed, but Adonai IS theLasombra B)
It's his site
Don't know if you noticed, but Adonai IS theLasombra B)
It's his site








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18 Jun 2011 16:22 #5319
by Jussi

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Banging trashcans, breaking windows
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We like the good time, we scream and shout
And that's what fun's about
Replied by Jussi on topic Re: Second Seraph
I also find 8 Seraph's Seconds too much. Big vampires and a card that requires two vampires to play are actually really challenging.
Previously suggested Tattoo Signals are good, so i'd trade three Seraph's Seconds to three Tattoo Signals.
What are blurs for, other than surprise factor?
Switch two Blurs to one Selective Silence and one Taste of Death. And for extra nastiness, one Wider View for Rötshreck.
Previously suggested Tattoo Signals are good, so i'd trade three Seraph's Seconds to three Tattoo Signals.
What are blurs for, other than surprise factor?
Switch two Blurs to one Selective Silence and one Taste of Death. And for extra nastiness, one Wider View for Rötshreck.





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And that's what fun's about
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19 Jun 2011 09:11 #5336
by hardyrange
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Yes, I was fully aware of that.@hardyrange
Don't know if you noticed, but Adonai IS theLasombra B)
It's his site
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24 Jul 2011 18:47 - 24 Jul 2011 18:52 #6724
by Haze
Replied by Haze on topic Re: Second Seraph
I modified this deck as I suggested above, and tried it out in a casual game. I think it did pretty well and was fun to play. It's roughly similar to a !Gangrel flurry-of-action deck I've been playing for the past year, but I think this is MUCH stronger thanks to the pool defense and Assamite clan cards.
results:
got one VP as the table crumbled. It was heads-up against a G1-2 prince deck that bloated a lot. We both had over 20 pool at one point, but I was slowly wittling him down while he could barely make a dent in my armor. Timed out the turn before I would score the oust. Never saw the Tattoo Signals, they were both on the very bottom of the deck! If I had drawn them, I could Darby-Dance my laptops around and bleed him out much faster. We tied for 1.5 VP each.
possible improvements:
another permanent intercept. one sport bike should do.
1-2 Leather Jackets for the Darby Dancing phase.
more Art of Memory! I only had one copy in my collection to work with.
Sabbat Priest is one of my favorite cards in a multi-acting deck, so one or two would be nice.
swap out a 44 Magnum for a more dangerous weapon. maybe Flamethrower or Improvised Flamethrower?
Deck Name: Second Seraph, the Second
Created By:
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 26, Max: 36, Avg: 7.66)
3 Djuhah aus cel pre OBF QUI7 Assamite
3 Izhim abd Azrael pot CEL OBF QUI THA9 Assamite
2 Joe `Boot` Hill for obf CEL QUI7 Assamite
2 Nizzam al-Latif dem ANI CEL OBF QUI9 Assamite
2 Reza Fatir obf pro CEL QUI6 Assamite
Library: (90 cards)
Master (16 cards)
2 Alamut
1 Black Forest Base
2 Blood Doll
2 Information Highway
1 Khabar: Community, The
1 Market Square
1 Underworld Hunting Ground
4 Villein
1 Wider View
1 Yoruba Shrine
Action (17 cards)
1 Black Hand Ritual
6 Flurry of Action
4 Haqim`s Law: Leadership
4 Reunion Kamut
2 Tattoo Signal
Action Modifier (13 cards)
1 Art of Memory, The
5 Faceless Night
5 Lost in Crowds
2 Seraph`s Second
Political Action (6 cards)
2 Banishment
2 Cardinal Benediction
2 Kine Resources Contested
Reaction (17 cards)
6 Black Sunrise
2 Confusion of the Eye
2 Delaying Tactics
4 Nest of Eagles
3 Truth in Ink
Combat (6 cards)
2 Blur
4 Disguised Weapon
Ally (2 cards)
1 Ghouls of Plaza Moreria, The
1 Mylan Horseed (Goblin)
Retainer (3 cards)
1 J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1 Mr. Winthrop
1 Tasha Morgan
Equipment (8 cards)
4 .44 Magnum
1 Ivory Bow
2 Laptop Computer
1 Reliquary: Shango Remains
Combo (2 cards)
2 Blood Awakening
results:
got one VP as the table crumbled. It was heads-up against a G1-2 prince deck that bloated a lot. We both had over 20 pool at one point, but I was slowly wittling him down while he could barely make a dent in my armor. Timed out the turn before I would score the oust. Never saw the Tattoo Signals, they were both on the very bottom of the deck! If I had drawn them, I could Darby-Dance my laptops around and bleed him out much faster. We tied for 1.5 VP each.
possible improvements:
another permanent intercept. one sport bike should do.
1-2 Leather Jackets for the Darby Dancing phase.
more Art of Memory! I only had one copy in my collection to work with.
Sabbat Priest is one of my favorite cards in a multi-acting deck, so one or two would be nice.
swap out a 44 Magnum for a more dangerous weapon. maybe Flamethrower or Improvised Flamethrower?
Deck Name: Second Seraph, the Second
Created By:
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 26, Max: 36, Avg: 7.66)
3 Djuhah aus cel pre OBF QUI7 Assamite
3 Izhim abd Azrael pot CEL OBF QUI THA9 Assamite
2 Joe `Boot` Hill for obf CEL QUI7 Assamite
2 Nizzam al-Latif dem ANI CEL OBF QUI9 Assamite
2 Reza Fatir obf pro CEL QUI6 Assamite
Library: (90 cards)
Master (16 cards)
2 Alamut
1 Black Forest Base
2 Blood Doll
2 Information Highway
1 Khabar: Community, The
1 Market Square
1 Underworld Hunting Ground
4 Villein
1 Wider View
1 Yoruba Shrine
Action (17 cards)
1 Black Hand Ritual
6 Flurry of Action
4 Haqim`s Law: Leadership
4 Reunion Kamut
2 Tattoo Signal
Action Modifier (13 cards)
1 Art of Memory, The
5 Faceless Night
5 Lost in Crowds
2 Seraph`s Second
Political Action (6 cards)
2 Banishment
2 Cardinal Benediction
2 Kine Resources Contested
Reaction (17 cards)
6 Black Sunrise
2 Confusion of the Eye
2 Delaying Tactics
4 Nest of Eagles
3 Truth in Ink
Combat (6 cards)
2 Blur
4 Disguised Weapon
Ally (2 cards)
1 Ghouls of Plaza Moreria, The
1 Mylan Horseed (Goblin)
Retainer (3 cards)
1 J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1 Mr. Winthrop
1 Tasha Morgan
Equipment (8 cards)
4 .44 Magnum
1 Ivory Bow
2 Laptop Computer
1 Reliquary: Shango Remains
Combo (2 cards)
2 Blood Awakening
Last edit: 24 Jul 2011 18:52 by Haze.
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25 Jul 2011 01:52 - 25 Jul 2011 01:55 #6736
by Lech

Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
Replied by Lech on topic Re: Second Seraph
Maybe abbot is good choice for intercept, or abbot and winthrop?
Not sure why you dont have guarded rubric here ? With 2 tattoo signals it's bleed for 9 using 3 vampires. I would use more izhims, 4 should work.
Watchtower: Four Ride Forth is a must here. I don't think that flurries are so good here. Couple of Losses (played for free by Izhim) should work better, with some additional tattoo signals.
Giant's Blood ?
Not sure why you dont have guarded rubric here ? With 2 tattoo signals it's bleed for 9 using 3 vampires. I would use more izhims, 4 should work.
Watchtower: Four Ride Forth is a must here. I don't think that flurries are so good here. Couple of Losses (played for free by Izhim) should work better, with some additional tattoo signals.
Giant's Blood ?






Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
Last edit: 25 Jul 2011 01:55 by Lech.
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