Verminditioning - Nosferatu Antitribu + DOM
27 Aug 2014 15:22 #65108
by ReverendRevolver
Replied by ReverendRevolver on topic Re: Verminditioning - Nosferatu Antitribu + DOM
When doing unexpected stuff, remember you are going to be less good at everything than somethimg dedicated to it and overcome that with being good at something that matters.
So, you arent bleeding efficeintly (bloodgain from an archetype to offset cost is a card/mpa useable elsewhere or a blood usable elsewhere. You have the disciplines to block or fight and some bounce.
Do you want to be a great blocker? Bouncer? Scary combat?
The bleeds being at 3 stealth matters less when they arent super scary to start. Robert Carters not an option. Or monkey wrench. Tier of Souls makes you stay hard to read, gets a blood, and plus bleed.
Honestly, Ive been ousted by VC, but it was G2 and had combat to recover blood. Its not good. Night moves+spying mission is better.
!Nos are hard to read, so decide what to focus on other than bleeding at extra stealth. You need to be not a bleed deck until your prey is at 10 or less pool and set up in a way that cant handle you. Then yoir grandprey wont have much time to prepare either. Heart of cheating would help. You want the fatty to be untapped? Add Mylan (absolutely no reason not to. I dont like this deck, but love seeing people do new stuff, so if you take any advice from me, make it this. He bleeds, dodges, untaps your fatty) if you want, add metro underground. If you want to block alot, pb montreal and or pb barranquilla.
Anyway, LB would make this deck work. If you decide walling is where you go, thicken to like 80ish, add 2-3 abbots, and go from there. Not being cripple by combat is important too, but work it out based on meta.
So, you arent bleeding efficeintly (bloodgain from an archetype to offset cost is a card/mpa useable elsewhere or a blood usable elsewhere. You have the disciplines to block or fight and some bounce.
Do you want to be a great blocker? Bouncer? Scary combat?
The bleeds being at 3 stealth matters less when they arent super scary to start. Robert Carters not an option. Or monkey wrench. Tier of Souls makes you stay hard to read, gets a blood, and plus bleed.
Honestly, Ive been ousted by VC, but it was G2 and had combat to recover blood. Its not good. Night moves+spying mission is better.
!Nos are hard to read, so decide what to focus on other than bleeding at extra stealth. You need to be not a bleed deck until your prey is at 10 or less pool and set up in a way that cant handle you. Then yoir grandprey wont have much time to prepare either. Heart of cheating would help. You want the fatty to be untapped? Add Mylan (absolutely no reason not to. I dont like this deck, but love seeing people do new stuff, so if you take any advice from me, make it this. He bleeds, dodges, untaps your fatty) if you want, add metro underground. If you want to block alot, pb montreal and or pb barranquilla.
Anyway, LB would make this deck work. If you decide walling is where you go, thicken to like 80ish, add 2-3 abbots, and go from there. Not being cripple by combat is important too, but work it out based on meta.
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27 Aug 2014 16:28 #65109
by Wand
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Replied by Wand on topic Re: Verminditioning - Nosferatu Antitribu + DOM
hey,
thanks for the input. Changed it a bit to avoid loosing blood and with some blood recover. Below, the new decklist
Deck Name: Verminditioning
Created By:
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 12, Max: 37, Avg: 6,08)
1 Aaron Bathurst for obf pot 4 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Blister obf pot 3 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Frank Litzpar ani for pot OBF5 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Joseph Cambridge ani dom obf POT6 Nosferatu Antitribu
4 Julio Martinez ANI DOM nec OBF POT9 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Old Neddacka obf 2 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Servius Marius Pustula obf ANI CHI DOM OBT POT10 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Stick ANI 3 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Tock obf pot pre 4 Nosferatu Antitribu
Library: (81 cards)
Master (15 cards)
3 Capitalist
1 Direct Intervention
1 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Hungry Coyote, The
1 Nosferatu Kingdom
2 Villein
4 Vessel
1 Metro Underground
1 Coven, The
Action (12 cards)
3 Inside Dirt
2 Under Siege
7 Vermin Channel
Action Modifier (23 cards)
3 Cloak the Gathering
7 Conditioning
3 Into Thin Air
7 Mouthpiece
3 Veil the Legions
Reaction (21 cards)
1 Delaying Tactics
7 Obedience
3 On the Qui Vive
7 Redirection
3 Sense the Savage Way
Combat (6 cards)
1 Canine Horde
5 Flesh Bond
Ally (2 cards)
2 Mylan Horseed (Goblin)
Retainer (2 cards)
1 J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1 Tasha Morgan
This deck was last saved at 15:13:13 on 27/08/2014
thanks for the input. Changed it a bit to avoid loosing blood and with some blood recover. Below, the new decklist
Deck Name: Verminditioning
Created By:
Description:
Crypt: (12 cards, Min: 12, Max: 37, Avg: 6,08)
1 Aaron Bathurst for obf pot 4 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Blister obf pot 3 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Frank Litzpar ani for pot OBF5 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Joseph Cambridge ani dom obf POT6 Nosferatu Antitribu
4 Julio Martinez ANI DOM nec OBF POT9 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Old Neddacka obf 2 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Servius Marius Pustula obf ANI CHI DOM OBT POT10 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Stick ANI 3 Nosferatu Antitribu
1 Tock obf pot pre 4 Nosferatu Antitribu
Library: (81 cards)
Master (15 cards)
3 Capitalist
1 Direct Intervention
1 Dreams of the Sphinx
1 Hungry Coyote, The
1 Nosferatu Kingdom
2 Villein
4 Vessel
1 Metro Underground
1 Coven, The
Action (12 cards)
3 Inside Dirt
2 Under Siege
7 Vermin Channel
Action Modifier (23 cards)
3 Cloak the Gathering
7 Conditioning
3 Into Thin Air
7 Mouthpiece
3 Veil the Legions
Reaction (21 cards)
1 Delaying Tactics
7 Obedience
3 On the Qui Vive
7 Redirection
3 Sense the Savage Way
Combat (6 cards)
1 Canine Horde
5 Flesh Bond
Ally (2 cards)
2 Mylan Horseed (Goblin)
Retainer (2 cards)
1 J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1 Tasha Morgan
This deck was last saved at 15:13:13 on 27/08/2014
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04 Sep 2014 11:45 - 04 Sep 2014 11:46 #65268
by Wand
Archbishop of Vitória
Replied by Wand on topic Re: Verminditioning - Nosferatu Antitribu + DOM
So, I've played this deck again this tuesday.
The oust power is good, I did another VP, but the combo trick isn't working the way I expected. Not because of the lack of blood or something, but mouthpiece + conditioning are not coming togheter in many ocasions.
The match was configuring this way:
Me > A count germaine anarch rush deck > !Malkavian S&B (the same that ousted me last week) > Rachel Brandywine Blocker and madness network.
I had a bit of trouble with rachel, but ousted with little problem the rush deck (did 9 bleed in 1 turn and smashed him). But after that, the combo trick stopped coming and I had trouble with bleed reductions from the !malk. He somehow managed to oust rachel with second tradicion / anima gathering and stomped me off right after.
I liked that the defense mecanisms worked pretty well. Obediences / bounces and combat ends worked properly. I guess I have to rethink the way I make this combo trick mouthpiece / conditioning work.
The oust power is good, I did another VP, but the combo trick isn't working the way I expected. Not because of the lack of blood or something, but mouthpiece + conditioning are not coming togheter in many ocasions.
The match was configuring this way:
Me > A count germaine anarch rush deck > !Malkavian S&B (the same that ousted me last week) > Rachel Brandywine Blocker and madness network.
I had a bit of trouble with rachel, but ousted with little problem the rush deck (did 9 bleed in 1 turn and smashed him). But after that, the combo trick stopped coming and I had trouble with bleed reductions from the !malk. He somehow managed to oust rachel with second tradicion / anima gathering and stomped me off right after.
I liked that the defense mecanisms worked pretty well. Obediences / bounces and combat ends worked properly. I guess I have to rethink the way I make this combo trick mouthpiece / conditioning work.
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Last edit: 04 Sep 2014 11:46 by Wand.
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04 Sep 2014 11:52 #65269
by alek
Replied by alek on topic Re: Verminditioning - Nosferatu Antitribu + DOM
maybe try removing all mouthpieces and instead put few dominate master cards and/or sanguine instructions
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04 Sep 2014 11:56 #65270
by Wand
Alek,
It might work pretty well. I'm considering put a seal of veddartha, some sanguine and some dominate cards. But I'm not dropping all mouths. I guess I can use at least 3 for some surprise. If a manage to put super dom on my minions, I can replace the conditioning for threats and foreshadowing destruction.
Gonna think about it. Thanks for the feedback.
Archbishop of Vitória
Replied by Wand on topic Re: Verminditioning - Nosferatu Antitribu + DOM
maybe try removing all mouthpieces and instead put few dominate master cards and/or sanguine instructions
Alek,
It might work pretty well. I'm considering put a seal of veddartha, some sanguine and some dominate cards. But I'm not dropping all mouths. I guess I can use at least 3 for some surprise. If a manage to put super dom on my minions, I can replace the conditioning for threats and foreshadowing destruction.
Gonna think about it. Thanks for the feedback.
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