file Euro Brujah

02 Dec 2014 08:33 #67841 by alek
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I think 2x depravities are not needed here

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02 Dec 2014 17:24 #67860 by Drizmo
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As I see, the deck spends a lot of blood...

Your cards spend 28 blood, 38 with the Second Tradition, and you only have 6 Taste of Vitae. It seems too expensive for a close combat deck.
You don't need to hit for 9 (Torn+Blur) every combat. In my experience Torn+Undead Strength its enough for Theo and Beast, and Torn+Undead Strength and/or Pursuit for the Princes. I'm neither a fan of Earthshock in a close combat deck, your Pursuits and some Flash should let you handle Magnums and Snipers.

What can I say, The blood is the life!

Maybe the Hunting Ground could be a Powerbase: Montreal, less expensive and can accelerate you if you are lucky with your starting hand.

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04 Sep 2015 16:37 #72936 by schabowski
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At the moment, I am testing the version below.
I try to test different cards, so some cards are included only once.
In our playgroup there ist an Assamite-Deck with Selective Silence and Taste of Death. That's reaaly hard. And against Cailean it is the same.
But maybe I shouldn't care about that because these are not popular tournament decks.
Maybe I should include one of the cards:
Earthshock / Thrown Sewer Lid / Sideslip / Pentex(TM) Subversion / Heroic Might
But Beast and Theo only have inferior celerity.

Maybe I should play one or more of the followings cards, but at the moment there is no space for them...

Carver's Meat Packing and Storage
Decapitate
Direct Intervention
Dragonbound
Dreams of the Sphinx
Earthshock
Heroic Might
Pentex(TM) Subversion
Sideslip
Tension in the Ranks
Thrown Sewer Lid
Warzone Hunting Ground

My Deck list list:

Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=5 max=8 avg=7.08)
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2x Beast, The Leatherface of Detroit 7 ani cel OBF POT !Nosferatu:2
2x Constanza Vinti 8 CEL DOM POT Brujah:2
3x Dónal O'Connor 8 CEL DOM POT Brujah:2
3x Theo Bell 7 cel dom pre POT Brujah:2
2x Volker, The Puppet Prince 5 pot CEL Brujah:2

Library (90 cards)
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Master (13)
3x Blood Doll
1x Celerity
1x Depravity
1x Fame
1x Giant's Blood
1x Monster
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Powerbase: Montreal
1x Rack, The
2x Vessel

Action (11)
10x Govern the Unaligned
1x Preternatural Strength

Political Action (2)
2x Parity Shift

Action Modifier (3)
2x Conditioning
1x Foreshadowing Destruction

Reaction (16)
5x Deflection
2x On the Qui Vive
1x Redirection
8x Second Tradition: Domain

Combat (43)
3x Blur
3x Disarm
10x Immortal Grapple
7x Pursuit
4x Slam
7x Taste of Vitae
9x Torn Signpost

Combo (2)
1x Murmur of the False Will
1x Resist Earth's Grasp

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21 Mar 2016 20:05 #76059 by schabowski
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Hi,

this is my updated list of the deck.
In the TWDA I couldn't find a single Euro Brujah deck playing Target Vitals.
I will try it.
What do you think?

Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=5 max=8 avg=7.25)
===============================================
3x Beast, The Leatherface of Detroit 7 ani cel OBF POT !Nosferatu:2
2x Constanza Vinti 8 CEL DOM POT Brujah:2
3x Dónal O'Connor 8 CEL DOM POT Brujah:2
3x Theo Bell 7 cel dom pre POT Brujah:2
1x Volker, The Puppet Prince 5 pot CEL Brujah:2

Library (90 cards)
==================
Master (13)
3x Blood Doll
1x Carver's Meat Packing and Storage
1x Celerity
1x Depravity
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Fame
1x Giant's Blood
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
2x Vessel
1x Warzone Hunting Ground

Event (1)
1x Dragonbound

Action (12)
10x Govern the Unaligned
2x Preternatural Strength

Political Action (2)
2x Parity Shift

Action Modifier (2)
2x Conditioning

Reaction (16)
5x Deflection
2x On the Qui Vive
9x Second Tradition: Domain

Combat (42)
3x Blur
3x Disarm
9x Immortal Grapple
7x Pursuit
3x Slam
2x Target Vitals
7x Taste of Vitae
8x Torn Signpost

Combo (2)
2x Murmur of the False Will

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22 Mar 2016 10:35 #76068 by jamesatzephyr
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this is my updated list of the deck.
In the TWDA I couldn't find a single Euro Brujah deck playing Target Vitals.
I will try it.
What do you think?


Target Vitals (and Target Head) are great, great combat cards, particularly for those decks that don't have good or easy access to lots of damage. In an Immortal Grapple deck, they're possibly working against you somewhat. You can get lots of damage from Torn Signpost, strikes, blur, and capitalize on it using Disarm - so you don't necessarily need 12 damage in one combat to torporize a fresh Inner Circle.

With Immortal Grapple, however, the opponent can't play their Majesty (or other S:CE strike), so you can cause them to hand jam on it. Target Vitals, with its "The opposing minion may discard two combat cards [COMBAT] to cancel this card." means that the opponent may have the option to cycle those cards that are in their hand but currently useless to them. I'm going to go to torpor anyway, I can't play this Majesty or this Staredown usefully because you keep punching me in the face with IG, so I might as well cycle them and hope to draw into something better.

You want to think carefully about all this, because you don't want your predator so hosed that they can't keep your grand predator at bay for a little while, and you do in general want your prey to be able to smack your grand-prey about a bit. But giving the opponent the option to cycle cards may not be a good thing for a deck like this.

That's not "don't play them", but it is "think carefully about when you play them, and what other people's decks look like in your environment".
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23 Mar 2016 12:31 #76071 by alek
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with only two copies in 90 cards they won't do any difference either positive or negative. Better play more grapples.

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