file Baali deck

21 Oct 2015 05:24 #73780 by Elgnat
Baali deck was created by Elgnat
Hey ya all.

Im trying to make a Baali deck, because of reasons. The deck is not intended be
tournament winning stuff, but I would like it to be consistent in itself and not
get to clogged or to self-contradictory.

Offense and Ousting is intended to done by bleeding and Shatter the Gate. The Baali
have nice base bleed and some modifier. There is also Concordance in to let me stay
and block or make an extra Bleed/Shatter if I have the Enkil in play.

I also try to include a reaction package, based mainly on Auspex. The idea is that
it works well with Concordance and lets me defend both my pool, gates and vampires
from rushes.

As the crypt support THA, I trew in some Magic of the Smith and some good equipent.

The deck also sports a quite big Master package. I figured I really needed some
Zillah's and Info-bahn to get my fatties out sooner. The Baali and quite pool
intensive, so I included Villeins and Vessels to have some poolgain. The vamps
can get more blood by sheepdog, untap with infernal/concordance and I can have
some poolgain that way.

Since the deck uses a lot of masters, and includes Cybele, it felt natural to include
Ashur Tablets and Liquidation. It gives some pool and lets me recur reactions/actions
as needed as the game goes along.

The end result is this mess, as shown below.

It looks and feels wrong to me. Doing some goldfishing
in secret library, I'm not convinced. Seriously doubting the tablets package, but
I feel there is something more I'm missing. Maybe Im trying to fit to much stuff
into the same deck? Any input is welcome.

Deck Name: Baalis shatter reality
Author:
Description:
A little bit of everything Baali.

Crypt (Capacity min=7 max=10 avg=9.5; 12 cards)
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1x Azaneal 7 pre tha DAI OBF OBT Baali:4
3x Cybele 10 ANI DAI OBF PRE SER THA Baali:4
3x Nergal ADV 10 AUS DAI FOR OBF PRE THA Baali:5
2x Nergal 10 AUS DAI FOR OBF PRE THA Baali:5
1x Petaniqua ADV 9 chi AUS DAI DEM OBF THA Baali:4
2x Petaniqua 9 chi AUS DAI DEM OBF THA Malkavian:4

Library (71 cards)
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Master (23 cards)
6x Ashur Tablets
1x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Golconda: Inner Peace
2x Information Highway
1x Liquidation
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
3x Tend the Flock
2x Vessel
2x Villein
4x Zillah's Valley

Action (17 cards)
5x Concordance
3x Magic of the Smith
5x Shatter the Gate
3x Sheepdog
1x Unleash Hell's Fury

Equipment (4 cards)
1x Heart of Nizchetus
1x Helicopter
1x Sniper Rifle
1x Sport Bike

Action Modifier (12 cards)
2x As the Crow
5x Elder Impersonation
1x Enkil Cog
4x Psychomachia

Reaction (15 cards)
5x Bloodstorm of Chorazin
3x Enhanced Senses
3x Eyes of Argus
2x Precognition
2x Telepathic Misdirection

Created with Secret Library v0.9.4c. (Oct 21, 2015 10:24:17)

Respectfully

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21 Oct 2015 06:14 - 21 Oct 2015 06:14 #73781 by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Baali deck

The Baali and quite pool
intensive, so I included Villeins and Vessels to have some poolgain.
2x Vessel
2x Villein

I think there is a contradiction. 2 Vessel and 2 Villein are clearly not enough. Even with the Liquidation and Ashur, you'll die quite fast.

You should play at least 7 Villein. Since you play Cybele, you should play Anthelios to get back useful master cards. You could then include Path of Evil Revelations that will save you lots of pool.

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21 Oct 2015 06:40 - 21 Oct 2015 06:45 #73782 by Elgnat
Replied by Elgnat on topic Re: Baali deck
That is very true. It started as 7 Villein, but somewhere along
the way I just had a brainfart, I guess.

So many good masters. I would also like to fit Ruins of Charizel in,
but maybe the are redundant if I play the path. I was hoping to be able
to stay untapped from the concordances, but thats probably naive.

Any thoughts on the action and reaction packages?
Last edit: 21 Oct 2015 06:45 by Elgnat.

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21 Oct 2015 06:56 #73783 by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Baali deck

That is very true. It started as 7 Villein, but somewhere along
the way I just had a brainfart, I guess.

So many good masters. I would also like to fit Ruins of Charizel in,
but maybe the are redundant if I play the path. I was hoping to be able
to stay untapped from the concordances, but thats probably naive.

Any thoughts on the action and reaction packages?

It's very light on intercept.
I'll add two UHF and replace the Sport Bike for a Bowl of Convergence. Forget the Concordance, it's a bad card and it's really doesn't help you in an intercept deck. You could then remove the As the Crow.
Elder Impersonation / Psychomachia is great, but you need some basic stealth too (Lost in Crowds) to make them really effective.
I would add some Force of Personality for its versatility (anti-ally block, or combat ends).

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27 Feb 2016 15:50 #75562 by Klaital
Replied by Klaital on topic Baali deck
I really don't see why you have so few Tend the Flock in there? That card is amazing, much better than either liquidation or vessel for this deck. Otherwise too, I don't really see how this deck is going to oust anyone, you have no stealth (even minus stealth from concordance), and no combat that would make people hesitant to block you, so how are you exactly planning on getting anything done? I have a fairly succesful Baali deck that can give you the decklist for if you want? Its very different from this one though.

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27 Feb 2016 23:33 - 27 Feb 2016 23:40 #75572 by Bloodartist
Replied by Bloodartist on topic Baali deck

I really don't see why you have so few Tend the Flock in there? That card is amazing, much better than either liquidation or vessel for this deck.


Well, two thirds of the crypt (8/12) is same size: 10. I'm not sure its reliable for tend the flock to actually find targets (it needs a younger uncontrolled baali). But I also think tend the flock is amazing, when it actually has targets in uncontrolled region it can hit.

I'm definitely not a big authority on deckbuilding in this game as I only started it roughly 2 years ago.. but I kinda agree with Klaital. The deck doesn't have diplomacy, no bleed increase to speak of, and no obvious victory condition that I can see? I think at the very least it needs more 'sense the sin' to act as both bleed increase and intercept. Lets not forget that even in the case that you actually get shatter the gates to trigger, they may oust the wrong persons.

Also only 5 shatter the gate in a 71 card deck? I think that is too few if you ever intend to get it off.

I recently started building a Baali deck of my own that also tries to get shatter the gate off. However, the deck looks totally different as it revolves around The Unnamed and hordes. Thats why Im not posting a list, at least not yet; It is work in progress. My first iteration however had 10 shatter the gates in a 60 card deck. I imagine you want to get it down quickly and block attempts to remove them or to rush the vampire who is holding the gates. Out of the three games that Ive played so far with my incomplete deck, I got shatter the gates off once but no victory points cause people died to it in the wrong order :P

ps. I have Baali cards arriving in the mail hopefully soon, and I may post when I have tuned my deck more.

A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
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