file Group 5/6 Toreador Aching Beauty with Zephyr

07 Dec 2020 02:05 #101211 by LivesByProxy
Group 5/6 Toreador are cheap vamps in the big weenie / low mid-cap range. The newish card Zephyr lets vamps untap after successful actions. How best to combine these two?

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2x Bret Stryker:cap4: -- :CEL: :PRE: G: 6 -- -1 intercept vs titled vamps.
2x Tamoszius :cap5: --- :aus: :CEL: :PRE: G:6 -- vanilla
2x Lindsay Yates :cap5: -- :aus: :for: :pre: :CEL: G:5 -- vanilla
2x Vasily :cap6: -- :aus: :pre: :ser: :CEL: G:5 -- Prince, contesting his title costs him 1 extra blood.
2x Flavio Goncalves :cap7: -- :aus: :for: :CEL: :PRE: G:6 -- Prince, strike:dodge, once per combat.
2x Catalina Vega :cap8: -- :for: :AUS: :CEL: :PRE: G:6. -- Prince, +1 bleed.

An example deck, input welcome:
Library
Masters - 17
7 Aching Beauty
4 Vessel
1 Elder Library
1 The Barrens
1 Cairo, Int'l Airport
1 Society Hunting Ground
1 Art Museum
1 Information Highway

Actions - 17
3 Revelations
5 Precision
3 Flurry of Action
6 Enchant Kindred

Action Modifiers - 25
9 Zephyr
5 Aire of Elation
5 Bewitching Oration
2 Scorn of Adonis
4 Voter Captivation

Combat - 14
8 Vampiric Speed
4 Majesty
2 Torrent

Political Action - 10
1 Toreador Justicar
5 Parity Shift
4 Kine Resources Contested

Reactions - 8
4 On The Qui Vive
4 Telepathic Misdirection

:gang: :CEL: :FOR: :PRO: :cap6: Gangrel. Noddist. Camarilla. Once each turn, LivesByProxy may burn 1 blood to lose Protean :PRO: until the end of the turn and gain your choice of superior Auspex :AUS:, Obfuscate :OBF:, or Potence :POT: for the current action.

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07 Dec 2020 08:57 #101215 by Lönkka
Why not use Torrent instead of Zephyr?

Get even more bang for the Aching Beauty buck...

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07 Dec 2020 09:06 - 07 Dec 2020 09:08 #101216 by Timo
All these princes without any second tradition seems sad to me !

And you also have half your crypt who can play forced march at inferior !

On the contrary, 4 telepathic misdirection with only 2/12 vamp able to play it at superior seems off..
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07 Dec 2020 10:19 #101217 by Yomyael
Change of Target seems to be a lot more efficient than Zephyr. Both require you to be blocked (apart from some rare cases), and in combat you only use S:CE and Dodge - so you need a Zephyr and a combat card to get effectively the same effect as you would get when playing Change of Target. Furthermore you are still vulnerable in combat against grapple or additional strikes.

Also, you wrote at the top that Zephyr lets you unlock after successful actions. Is this a typing error or a reading error? Zephyr only works after resolution of an unsuccessful action.

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07 Dec 2020 15:19 #101220 by LivesByProxy
Yes, Zephyr is meant to be played after my actions fail.

What would you guys suggest as a combat module with these vampires? (In lieu of / in addition to using Majesty.) I'm contemplating using "enter combat" actions with the Aching Beauty vamps: If the vamps are blocked, opponent burns 1 pool, and we punish their blocker. If the action isn't blocked, we can beat down troublesome minions.

Possibly we can do tricks like: Concealed -> .44 Magnum -> Majesty -> Psyche! -> "go to long" -> Blur -> Target Vitals. And be untapped by the end of combat to repeat another action.

I also like Torrent for lunges or critical actions we don't want blocked (like Parity Shift.)

I'm tempted to try to do a combat module based around Molotov Cocktail simply so I can call the deck A Beautiful Cocktail Party.
Thoughts?

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07 Dec 2020 15:34 #101221 by LivesByProxy
Alternatively, relying on Zephyr, since that's the original idea:
Bum's Rush -> Concealed -> .44 -> Acrobatics / Blur -> Zephyr.

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