TWD - Tom pasa a mejor vida, Palma de Mallorca, 28.Apr.2012

i love how this deck looks. i'd been talking about doing henrietta menors with lilliths for a long time, but never could talk myself into it. wow

I've played a deck similar to this one quite a bit and I'm scratching my head how you avoid a total master hand jam with those card ratios?

Lemminkäinen wrote:

I've played a deck similar to this one quite a bit and I'm scratching my head how you avoid a total master hand jam with those card ratios?

Well, out of 25 Masters, 10 are trifle. Out of the remaining 15, 6 aren't needed once you put the original one in the game (Blessing, Coyote). And those Potence masters you can put on vamps via Lilith's Blessing, so you de-clog your library further that way. So not that many masters at all, actually...

Kiddo wrote:

Lemminkäinen wrote:

I've played a deck similar to this one quite a bit and I'm scratching my head how you avoid a total master hand jam with those card ratios?

Well, out of 25 Masters, 10 are trifle. Out of the remaining 15, 6 aren't needed once you put the original one in the game (Blessing, Coyote). And those Potence masters you can put on vamps via Lilith's Blessing, so you de-clog your library further that way. So not that many masters at all, actually...

IME the problem has been that since you cycle cards extremely effectively whilst in combat, those Masters end up in your hand very quickly. And since you have only one discard phase action (and no other way of getting rid of extra cards), those extra Lilith's Blessings and such clog up. And since using Lilith's is such a common thing with this deck, and that takes a Master Phase action as well, there is trouble brewing.

Lemminkäinen wrote:

IME the problem has been that since you cycle cards extremely effectively whilst in combat, those Masters end up in your hand very quickly. And since you have only one discard phase action (and no other way of getting rid of extra cards), those extra Lilith's Blessings and such clog up. And since using Lilith's is such a common thing with this deck, and that takes a Master Phase action as well, there is trouble brewing.

Beeing a TWD seems to indicate otherwise, like being no problem at all.
So, I'd be interested in a comment on this from the deckbuilder, though.

-alf

Actually 6/90 isn't enough for me, but the player would probably draw one after the first 3 turns and can choose to bring out Angelo first.

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