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16 Sep 2011 10:25 #10345
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Card idea: Delayed Gratification (Sabbat Political Action)
Well, the reason being that by creating counters, like Hand Counters, you can affect multiple players at the same time. The biggest problem I have with the card is that I have to pack quite a number, rather than just putting out the number of counters I want when I get the first copy of this card.





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16 Sep 2011 12:48 - 16 Sep 2011 12:52 #10356
by Ankha
You write "Choose any number of Methuselah" whereas the initial version was choosing only 1 Methuselah.
Choosing multiple Methuselah is stronger, maybe too much, maybe not, but I'd rather stick to 1 methuselah and a card put in play.
Besides, I don't see the point in choosing multiple methuselahs except if you have the vote lock and choose everyone else, in which case it may be too strong. (Punishing all other Methuselahs is not the same as granting each methuselah some special gift such as +1 hand size (Year of Fortune) or 2 MPA (Rumors of Gehenna))
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Card idea: Delayed Gratification (Sabbat Political Action)
Ok, I suspected something had changed but couldn't see what.Well, the reason being that by creating counters, like Hand Counters, you can affect multiple players at the same time. The biggest problem I have with the card is that I have to pack quite a number, rather than just putting out the number of counters I want when I get the first copy of this card.
You write "Choose any number of Methuselah" whereas the initial version was choosing only 1 Methuselah.
Choosing multiple Methuselah is stronger, maybe too much, maybe not, but I'd rather stick to 1 methuselah and a card put in play.
Besides, I don't see the point in choosing multiple methuselahs except if you have the vote lock and choose everyone else, in which case it may be too strong. (Punishing all other Methuselahs is not the same as granting each methuselah some special gift such as +1 hand size (Year of Fortune) or 2 MPA (Rumors of Gehenna))
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16 Sep 2011 20:30 #10370
by Juggernaut1981




Baron of Sydney, Australia, 418
Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Card idea: Delayed Gratification (Sabbat Political Action)
Who said you are trying to choose every Methuselah? Just the same way that people choose the players they want on the table at the end of the game for things like Year of Fortune and Rumours of Gehenna... You would choose their preys to take the counters. The only time you'd choose everyone is if you wanted to have the entire table turn around and smash you off the table. But it might be a good thing to do on your prey and predator... and get your cross-tables to back you if you need it.





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17 Sep 2011 09:53 #10390
by simcof
Replied by simcof on topic Re: Card idea: Delayed Gratification (Sabbat Political Action)
I agree that sabbat politics certainly needs a boost. also not that it matters that much, but I recall a lot of politics in sabbat (just of a more savage nature).
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