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It does not give you intercept. It's the intimidated effect of an acting minion. You could get +2 intercept with pack tactics, and that doesn't require a disciplin.

"-1 stealth" is more strong effect than "+1 intercept", because it technically gives each minion +1 intercept.
And there is a gap in logic: how does potence or presence reduce stealth? How can a vampire intimidate an acting minion if he can't track him?

If you are affraid, then you might f*ck up

Ashur wrote:

Amenophobis wrote:

Yes, a Auspex card with 1 blood cost and inf +1 intercept and sup reduce 1 (or even 2?) would maybe be both playable and not to strong.

+1 intercept at most often is free.
Reduce by 2 at is also free.

Why should there be a blood cost?

Because of the versatility.[/quote]

Honestly, I can see it being used as a free card with +1 intercept, Reduce a bleed against you by 2 or burn 1 to reduce a bleed against any Methuselah.

Baaliprimogen wrote:

No, you can't!!!
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[pot]

 Only usable on a  action against you. The acting minion gets -1 stealth.

[POT]
 Only usable on a bleed against you, or a political action. Reduce the acting minion's stealth to 0. The minion may still increase his or her stealth.

Baaliprimogen wrote:

If you are affraid, then you might f*ck up

How about this variant:

No, you can't!
[action]
[pot]

  Put this card on a minion. That minion gets -1 stealth on bleed actions.

[POT]
  Put this card on a minion. That minion can't play action modifiers to increase stealth during bleed and political actions.



-- That's would be intimidation. A vampire comes to target minion and with his high charisma and strength persuades him not to f*** up with serious people. (add blood cost and stealth as needed)

I think that a methuselah is somebody who can track the events in general, but it is diffucult for him to interact with "small" events. He can track a vampire's heaven, but can't say where that vampire is at this moment.