New Card Idea: Powerbase: Stockholm
31 Jan 2012 15:38 #22133
by Drain
New Card Idea: Powerbase: Stockholm was created by Drain
Name: Powerbase: Stockholm
Cardype: Master
Unique Location.
If you control the edge, you may tap this card to give a minion you control +1 bleed. Any vampire whose controller has the edge may steal this location for his or her controller as a
action.
Game development:
- Give the game additional ways to produce forward pressure.
Flavor:
- None in particular.
Balance:
- In the modern environment post-Villein and Lilith's Blessing it can be argued that the game could really use a pair of generalistic cards that promote forward motion. This particular card aims to do so in a two-fold way: by requiring players to control the edge and by allowing for additional pressure once they control it.
- Pondered about making the effect a much more powerful "while you control the edge you may burn it to give a minion you control +1 bleed" but that might be too much.
Competitiveness:
- High. Very useful for agressive decks with actions to spare and for walls that like to bleed casually for low amounts.
Drain
Cardype: Master
Unique Location.
If you control the edge, you may tap this card to give a minion you control +1 bleed. Any vampire whose controller has the edge may steal this location for his or her controller as a

Game development:
- Give the game additional ways to produce forward pressure.
Flavor:
- None in particular.
Balance:
- In the modern environment post-Villein and Lilith's Blessing it can be argued that the game could really use a pair of generalistic cards that promote forward motion. This particular card aims to do so in a two-fold way: by requiring players to control the edge and by allowing for additional pressure once they control it.
- Pondered about making the effect a much more powerful "while you control the edge you may burn it to give a minion you control +1 bleed" but that might be too much.
Competitiveness:
- High. Very useful for agressive decks with actions to spare and for walls that like to bleed casually for low amounts.
Drain
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31 Jan 2012 16:08 - 31 Jan 2012 16:10 #22135
by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: New Card Idea: Powerbase: Stockholm
Good idea.
Small possible problem : the additional action to get the powerbase is a bit "wasted", because you exchange a bleed for 1 for a +1 bleed. Also, wallish deck will take it and never surrender it. (but that may still be positive, since they will kill more easily).
Another stealing condition may be better like "a methuselah that oust its prey can steal this location" or "you can spend 4 transfert and the edge to take control of this card". It may also be fine this way.
Also, I would restrict it to vampires, not minion, to avoid problem with Nephandus or other horde ally deck.
Small possible problem : the additional action to get the powerbase is a bit "wasted", because you exchange a bleed for 1 for a +1 bleed. Also, wallish deck will take it and never surrender it. (but that may still be positive, since they will kill more easily).
Another stealing condition may be better like "a methuselah that oust its prey can steal this location" or "you can spend 4 transfert and the edge to take control of this card". It may also be fine this way.
Also, I would restrict it to vampires, not minion, to avoid problem with Nephandus or other horde ally deck.
Last edit: 31 Jan 2012 16:10 by Ohlmann.
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31 Jan 2012 16:26 #22141
by Drain
Having the PB work with minions doesn't seem too problematic since you can just steal the powerbase from them and then only the vampires from that controller can try to recover it.
I don't fancy your alternatives to steal the Powerbase because they are non-interactive. I've always liked how these cards give on-table actions. If these are to be considered "wasted" or not is to be decided in play, I do like giving players hard choices to make.
Drain
Replied by Drain on topic Re: New Card Idea: Powerbase: Stockholm
Good idea.
Small possible problem : the additional action to get the powerbase is a bit "wasted", because you exchange a bleed for 1 for a +1 bleed. Also, wallish deck will take it and never surrender it. (but that may still be positive, since they will kill more easily).
Another stealing condition may be better like "a methuselah that oust its prey can steal this location" or "you can spend 4 transfert and the edge to take control of this card". It may also be fine this way.
Also, I would restrict it to vampires, not minion, to avoid problem with Nephandus or other horde ally deck.
Having the PB work with minions doesn't seem too problematic since you can just steal the powerbase from them and then only the vampires from that controller can try to recover it.
I don't fancy your alternatives to steal the Powerbase because they are non-interactive. I've always liked how these cards give on-table actions. If these are to be considered "wasted" or not is to be decided in play, I do like giving players hard choices to make.

Drain
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31 Jan 2012 17:07 #22145
by Miasmat
Replied by Miasmat on topic Re: New Card Idea: Powerbase: Stockholm
Kind of a bummer that it'll probably come to you tapped if you steal it, so you'll have to hold it for a full turn before you can make use of it.
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31 Jan 2012 19:03 #22147
by Lech

Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
Replied by Lech on topic Re: New Card Idea: Powerbase: Stockholm
Powerbases are vampire only cards, so it would be strange if it would give some benefit for allies.






Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
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02 Feb 2012 18:47 #22251
by Drain
Replied by Drain on topic Re: New Card Idea: Powerbase: Stockholm
Name: Powerbase: Stockholm
Cardype: Master
Unique Location.
Once per turn you may burn the edge to give a vampire you control +1 bleed. Any vampire whose controller has the edge may burn it to steal this location for his or her controller as a
action.
Reworded, as per your considerations. Only enables vampires now and has no tapping restriction so it can be used straight away after being stolen. Did make it so that stealing the PB also requires burning the edge so as not to make it too easy to use straight away.
Drain
Cardype: Master
Unique Location.
Once per turn you may burn the edge to give a vampire you control +1 bleed. Any vampire whose controller has the edge may burn it to steal this location for his or her controller as a

Reworded, as per your considerations. Only enables vampires now and has no tapping restriction so it can be used straight away after being stolen. Did make it so that stealing the PB also requires burning the edge so as not to make it too easy to use straight away.
Drain
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