Nagaraja Nihilistics

glaswanderer wrote:

So, is Nightcry too cheap or too powerful?

Nagaraja usually only get played in Giovanni decks which already have access to Tye Cooper and Ambrosius. Considering that to play Ponticulus in such a deck you would have the additional opportunity costs and potential dead cards? The net gain vs. just having Tye Cooper is completely acceptable IMO.

glaswanderer wrote:

Lech. Why should these be Necromancy cards with special rules? Why can't they just be Nagaraja cards, there are only 3?

To increase playability. Nagaraja are fundamentally a support clan and their clan cards, if there should be any, should reflect that.

I've never thought of Nagaraja as being a combat clan...

Suoli wrote:

Nagaraja usually only get played in Giovanni decks which already have access to Tye Cooper and Ambrosius.

I disagree. I have seen some specific nagaraja played in a lot of deck, because some, like Le Din Tho, Sennadurek, or Ashuresh, have very useful special hard to get otherwise. Also, they often mesh well as or mid cap with useful special, so it's extremely restricting to use them only with Giovannis.

Considering that, it does indeed make easier to get a (regular) damage immune blocker. Which may not be uber powerful (compare to Marie Streck + War ghoul for example) but it's annoying and lead to more timeout, which is alway bad.

As a side note, it also autorize Mata Hari to tutorize thoses aforementionned wraith.

glaswanderer wrote:

Oblivion's Dance
Card type: combat
Requires: Nagaraja
Cost: 1 blood
Not usable on the first round of combat.
Strike: 3R damage, this strike cannot be dodged.

I share Ohlmann's concerns about the card, but I think you've addressed the wrong part.

The Nagaraja aren't very combative already. Aus/Dom/Nec isn't the makings of a strong combat clan. Pot/Dom/Nec doesn't make the Giovanni that great in combat, and Auspex isn't exactly helping that much. Going to a second round means you've already been potentially exposed to a world of pain. Honestly, I don't see it making a great combat card when it's stuck in the second round.

In addition to that, second round card are already scarcely played while they are a lot more powerful.

Then again, not every card have to be playable. It's just that at best the card will be a trap. If a Nagaraja is dead-on trying to do damage, Psychic blast which is free and playable on first round will usually work a lot better. A psychic blast is already pretty bad when you are not black hand.