file Scrounged Secrets - NosAnti Modifier

20 Jul 2012 01:24 - 21 Jul 2012 20:55 #33513 by Juggernaut1981


Scrounged Secrets
Action Modifier
Nosferatu Antitribu
Only playable during a bleed action.
Choose a card in your prey's ash-heap. This vampire may burn X blood to remove X copies of that card from the game and gain +X bleed against that Methuselah. You may not play action modifiers to increase the amount of this bleed.

The grave soul keeps its own secrets, and takes its own punishment in silence. - Dorothy Dix

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Last edit: 21 Jul 2012 20:55 by Juggernaut1981.

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20 Jul 2012 07:01 #33522 by alek
I like the concept very much. It boost anti Nos as well which is good, because it's one of the weaker clans. I would just alter it a little. I feel the cost is too high. Also there should be some restriction added (f.e. no more than +3) to avoid +10 bleed modifier vs. some decks (f.e. removing aid from bats vs. weenie animalism) and a sentence that no more bleed modifiers can be played during this action.

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20 Jul 2012 07:20 #33524 by Chaitan
Love the card but why exclude regular nosferatu from using it?

If it's too weak it could be changed to burn X blood to remove X+1 card and gain X+1 bleed.

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20 Jul 2012 07:35 #33526 by Pascal Bertrand
Looks like you're using the CE's Awe cardtext - that's bad ! :)

In your card, the vampire has to pay the cost of X, and then has to burn blood for the effect. Either have it cost 0, or remove the "burn X blood" part ;)

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20 Jul 2012 11:49 - 20 Jul 2012 11:56 #33532 by Juggernaut1981
@Pascal: Nah just having a brain explosion and trying not to create some kind of dodgey shennanigans for Mata Hari.

Image Edited: Removed the blood cost. Just burn the blood. No Mata Hari gets Ankara Citadel shennanigans here.

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Last edit: 20 Jul 2012 11:56 by Juggernaut1981.

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20 Jul 2012 13:18 #33535 by ReverendRevolver
i love it. at first, i was like " thats way too good, you can bleed with servius or julio and go govern+command the beast+scrounged secrets+conditioning to get easy bleeds of 15" but then i realized that (aside from govern+Command 'O beast+conditioning's = 7) the only time you're going to make a bleed get +8 by removing 8 copies of the same card is against girls, and @ 35-45 pool midgame, they can deal with it.

of the common deck types that would be in tears from a card like this, girls, imbued, and kindred spirits get hit the hardest, followed by nocturns, and malk 94. basically, all decks that are aggro enough to need the breaks put on them. sure, lawfirm MIGHT have like 5 majesty in their heap, but they also probably have a deflection in hand. which is my only real concern...

bounce becomes stupid strong if you burn too many cards.

i'd like to see this as a nos and anti nos card, and i think it should have a "no more modifiers can increase the bleed amount" clause, but i'm really sold on the idea. sweet!

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