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25 Jul 2012 01:36 #33788 by Molloy
chi dem card idea was created by Molloy
Fixation
:action:
1 :blood:
:chi: :dem: +1 stealth (d) action. Put this card on an ally or younger vampire controlled by your prey. A minion may have only one Fixation. The minion with this card must burn 1 blood to attempt to block. Any minion may burn this card as an action.
:CHI: :DEM: Tap all minions with Fixation. Your prey burns one pool for each minion tapped in this way.

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25 Jul 2012 02:00 #33789 by Juggernaut1981
I just had a quick look for vampires with CHI DEM and I found 3 Ravnos with between 6 and 10 cap all from G4-5. I'd be worried that this card, if printed, would basically create a deck of its own which is a variation of a Sense Dep Lockdown style deck.

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25 Jul 2012 02:56 #33790 by Jeff Kuta
Replied by Jeff Kuta on topic Re: chi dem card idea
I kind of like this card. I actually think it needs to be just a touch more powerful since the inferior rightfully has a burn option. Plus some clean-up.

Fixation
:action:
1 :blood:
+1 stealth action
:chi::dem:: (D) Put this card on an ally or younger vampire controlled by your prey and tap that minion. The minion with this card must burn 1 blood or life to attempt to block. Any minion may burn this card as a (D) action. A minion may have only one Fixation.
:CHI::DEM:: (D) Tap all minions with Fixation. Any minion with a Fixation may attempt to block this action. Your prey burns one pool for each minion tapped in this way.

Made both versions at +1 stealth. Added tap clause to inferior. Added any minion may block to superior since it's now at stealth.

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25 Jul 2012 06:46 #33802 by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: chi dem card idea
So, for one action per turn plus one action per minion, I completely lock my prey, while burning throught its pool. Good thing :CHI: :DEM: is not seen with bounce-able discipline, because it could get ugly fast.

For me, it's too powerful a lock once it's running. It may be hard to put into place, because few vampire can play the superior version and all, but I find this dangerously close to Sensory Deprivation in that you don't need anything else (except stealth) to deal with your prey.

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25 Jul 2012 07:27 - 25 Jul 2012 07:28 #33803 by jamesatzephyr
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: chi dem card idea

:CHI::DEM:: (D) Tap all minions with Fixation. Any minion with a Fixation may attempt to block this action. Your prey burns one pool for each minion tapped in this way.
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Added any minion may block to superior since it's now at stealth.


The superior was already a directed action against all of the affected Methuselahs (i.e. any Methuselah with a Fixation - plus your prey). All of those Methuselahs' minions can already attempt to block it - including those with Fixation, assuming they burn a blood (because of the inferior).

This is the same as Shepherd's Innocence, for example, which is a (D) action with multiple target Methuselahs (potentially).
Last edit: 25 Jul 2012 07:28 by jamesatzephyr.

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25 Jul 2012 07:34 #33804 by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: chi dem card idea
As a side note, the Jeff wording would need some additional words to avoid you being able to block yourself, no ? Since it would wave all restriction and not only the rule of being the target.

(of course, it only matter if more than one player play Fixation, which overall do strange thing anyway)

I have another question : in a pure lore sense, why Chimestry ? It seem an entirely dementation effect, I don't see too much link to illusions.

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