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Submission/Powerful Friends (master protecting vs votes)
28 Sep 2012 09:35 - 28 Sep 2012 10:46 #37941
by Ankha
Submission/Powerful Friends (master protecting vs votes) was created by Ankha
Name: Powerful Friends
Cardtype: Master
Cost: X pool
Master: out-of-turn.
Until your next untap phase, you cannot burn more than X+1 pool during the resolution of each of the next X+1 referendum.
So basically, for free (but the cost of a MPA) you can't lose more than 1 pool during the next referendum. For 1 pool, you can't lose more than 2 pool during the next 2 referendums (making it up to 5 pool total), etc.
WOD source: none
Reference: Vox Domini, Protected Resources
Art notes: a Ventrue in some kind of parliament chamber, an enveloppe in his hand, is about to speak, but now is seen hesitating, disturbed. His head is slightly turned aside towards the reason of his sudden change of attitude: a tall man standing in the shadows right behind him, his features unrecognized, like a looming danger.
Created by: Ankha
Cardtype: Master
Cost: X pool
Master: out-of-turn.
Until your next untap phase, you cannot burn more than X+1 pool during the resolution of each of the next X+1 referendum.
So basically, for free (but the cost of a MPA) you can't lose more than 1 pool during the next referendum. For 1 pool, you can't lose more than 2 pool during the next 2 referendums (making it up to 5 pool total), etc.
WOD source: none
Reference: Vox Domini, Protected Resources
Art notes: a Ventrue in some kind of parliament chamber, an enveloppe in his hand, is about to speak, but now is seen hesitating, disturbed. His head is slightly turned aside towards the reason of his sudden change of attitude: a tall man standing in the shadows right behind him, his features unrecognized, like a looming danger.
Created by: Ankha
Last edit: 28 Sep 2012 10:46 by Ankha.
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28 Sep 2012 09:48 #37943
by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Submission/Powerful Friends (master protecting vs votes)
Way, way too expensive for what it does.
OOT MPA tend to be more expensive than regular MPA, since you also can't play a trifle. And if you pay for more than one political action, in addition to make the protection a lot less worthwhile, you can use up the charge with non damaging vote.
So, we're looking to something that will often make you gain 2 pool for an OoT master. Yay. And don't protect you against Banishment. Yay.
By comparison, the Dummy corporation will net the same, and is not exactly played too much.
Also, the wording does not mesh well with Parity Shift. I guess the intend is to cap it to one, but the Parity wording seem to imply you don't burn it.
OOT MPA tend to be more expensive than regular MPA, since you also can't play a trifle. And if you pay for more than one political action, in addition to make the protection a lot less worthwhile, you can use up the charge with non damaging vote.
So, we're looking to something that will often make you gain 2 pool for an OoT master. Yay. And don't protect you against Banishment. Yay.
By comparison, the Dummy corporation will net the same, and is not exactly played too much.
Also, the wording does not mesh well with Parity Shift. I guess the intend is to cap it to one, but the Parity wording seem to imply you don't burn it.
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28 Sep 2012 10:05 - 28 Sep 2012 10:07 #37945
by Izaak
Replied by Izaak on topic Re: Submission/Powerful Friends (master protecting vs votes)
I like the idea of vote-damage reduction though.
I'm just not too sure it will be played, for similar reasons why bleed reduction sees an awful lot of play.
What about something like
Deal 1 unpreventable damage to any titled vampire. If the target is Camarilla, deal 1 additional unpreventable damage.
Two votes. Only usable to vote against a referendum. If this referendum passes and you would take damage durings its resolution, reduce the damage received by 2.
I'm just not too sure it will be played, for similar reasons why bleed reduction sees an awful lot of play.
What about something like




Last edit: 28 Sep 2012 10:07 by Izaak.
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28 Sep 2012 10:38 - 28 Sep 2012 10:41 #37951
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Submission/Powerful Friends (master protecting vs votes)
It's hard to balance. How about capping it to 1 damage, whatever X?Way, way too expensive for what it does.
OOT MPA tend to be more expensive than regular MPA, since you also can't play a trifle. And if you pay for more than one political action, in addition to make the protection a lot less worthwhile, you can use up the charge with non damaging vote.
That's not so bad.So, we're looking to something that will often make you gain 2 pool for an OoT master. Yay.
I was thinking about rising the capacity of your vampires by X, but it's maybe too much.And don't protect you against Banishment. Yay.
Parity: "Successful referendum means the chosen Methuselah loses that pool, and it is allocated as you announced." Losing and burning are synonyms.Also, the wording does not mesh well with Parity Shift. I guess the intend is to cap it to one, but the Parity wording seem to imply you don't burn it.
Last edit: 28 Sep 2012 10:41 by Ankha.
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