file anarch 3fer card idea

16 Jan 2013 12:06 #44117 by wesile
Replied by wesile on topic Re: anarch 3fer card idea
I am troubled with the animalism block fail... maybe you could put something like "Blocking minions cannot use equipment" or "Blocking minions cannot S:CE".

And melpominee also troubles me. Presence is a lot more suited for this effect.

Yes you could create a anarch card with bloodlines disciplines... that should be very interesting.

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16 Jan 2013 12:29 #44118 by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: anarch 3fer card idea

I strongly believe that Anarch cards are more interesting if they do something a bit different from what that discipline usually does.


I think it's too often problematic, especially when the effect is powerful, a bit rare, and off-color, like the animalism one.

(of course, there is a lot of other thing that can make something more or less desireable. For example, giving intercept to dominate would be extremely undesireable, while giving bleed redirection to Thanatosis would only make me question the flavor, since Dominate is dominant and Thanatosis less so. In another thematic, intercept to Fortitude is for me less problematic than intercept to presence, since Fortitude is most often associated with auspex and animalism, which give intercept already, while Presence is more rarely so)

Ironically, I like the serpentis idea because vote control is already something that Follower can do a bit, with presence, or hierophant.

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16 Jan 2013 12:36 #44119 by DeathInABottle
Just on the name: why would a Baron shriek more loudly or effectively than a normal anarch?

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16 Jan 2013 12:57 #44121 by Lemminkäinen

I think it's too often problematic, especially when the effect is powerful, a bit rare, and off-color, like the animalism one.

(of course, there is a lot of other thing that can make something more or less desireable. For example, giving intercept to dominate would be extremely undesireable, while giving bleed redirection to Thanatosis would only make me question the flavor, since Dominate is dominant and Thanatosis less so. In another thematic, intercept to Fortitude is for me less problematic than intercept to presence, since Fortitude is most often associated with auspex and animalism, which give intercept already, while Presence is more rarely so)

Aye, these are things that should be considered, certainly, but I feel that a good anarch card should give the discipline something interesting and that usually means going at least slightly outside the normal scope of the discipline. For example, I consider the :obf: effect of Smoke and Mirrors rather boring and uninspiring and much prefer, say, :tha: of Loose Cannon.

But I do agree that care should be taken and I'm not sure that the :ani: effect here is a good fit.

Ironically, I like the serpentis idea because vote control is already something that Follower can do a bit, with presence, or hierophant.

Exactly!

Just on the name: why would a Baron shriek more loudly or effectively than a normal anarch?

Maybe he's a Prussian baron?

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