file aus nec card idea: Grave Sight

18 Jan 2013 18:09 - 18 Jan 2013 19:34 #44216 by Molloy
Grave Sight
:action:
2 :blood:
+ 1 stealth (d) action.
:aus: :nec: Bleed. If the bleed is successful, move up to three cards from your ash heap to the top of your library.
:AUS: :NEC: Choose a methuselah. Take control of all Ashur Tablets controlled by that methuselah.

:hosk: :ani: :chi: :for: :nec: :AUS: :cap6: Sabbat. Animals, Wraiths and Zombies Molloy recruits or employs get an additional life.
Last edit: 18 Jan 2013 19:34 by Molloy. Reason: improve inf to "up to three"

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19 Jan 2013 04:06 #44224 by brandonsantacruz
no

Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche

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19 Jan 2013 04:35 #44225 by ReverendRevolver
I dont see how this is addressing acompelling game need, or useful. I want ashurs erratad, but honestly its more practical to ban them than print hosers(wallpaper). And recursion, ok, neat. Give me something logical and thematic thats not broken, and im convinced.

Ive posted cards asking critique, and defended the parts i like. Ive critiqued, defended, and disected many card ideas,but other than thos being a card that is useful to 2 bloodlines and thematically cappadoccian discipline duo, theres nothing i really like about this card.

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25 Jan 2013 05:30 #44368 by direwolf
RevRev nailed it on the head. It might help if you talk about what you are trying to accomplish with this card idea.

Specifically targeting a single card at the superior level? Bad. Any card that requires someone else to play a specific card or clan is just a wasted slot. The basic level is just way too powerful.

Based on what little you presented, here is a suggestion of my own:

Grave Sight
:action:
2 :blood:
Requires :hosk:
Bleed with +1 bleed and stealth. If successful, randomly remove three cards in your ash heap from the game and move one card from your ash heap to the top of your library. If the target Methuselah controls an Ashur's Tablets, remove the three cards from his or her ash heap instead.

It has a little bit of its own recursion, with some anti-ashur's tech.

:tore: :pre: :tem: :aus: Independent Futurist. Contrarian (titled, X votes where X is the number of votes as the acting minion.) Target Vitals is always the better combat card.

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25 Jan 2013 08:00 #44375 by wesile
Hum if the problem is the Ashurs... why not create something like this:

:event:
The Past is gone

Gehenna

Remove all cards from all ash heaps. Played cards are from now on removed from the game as they are played. Each Methuselah gains 1 pool for each unique minion in his ash heap when this card is played.

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25 Jan 2013 08:21 #44378 by Ohlmann
But then, why not just ban Ashur tablet if it's to nerf it to the ground ?

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