[Submission] Market Rigging (PRE bleed resilient to redirection)

Ankha wrote:

Name: Market Rigging
Cardtype: Action
Discipline: Presence
Cost: 1 blood

  Bleed at +2 bleed.

 As above, and minion cards that change the target of this bleed cost an additional blood or life.

Thematically, i get the idea, and it worries me. If it was free and +1 bleed, it would matter less, but at +2, and taxing bounce, it makes bleed better, and pre bleex wasnt bad. Thematically, every bleed discipline could be granted similar effect, especially dom and dem, so im not sure why pre should have it.

Also, i dont think anyone NEEDS it. Maybe if it was free, allowed +1 bleed and allowed you to burn a blood to reduce yoir stealth to zero if the target was changed, then was as above with plus one stealth at superior it would have a similar niche with less power.

Necromancy or protean could use power like this more, and thematically aus would have stuff like this.

Its a solid concept, i just dont see this being better for the game when it helps something that already bleeds hard and pumps votes, with cap even.

Torries and setites benefit more than anyone from this card, and they dont need help. Torries bleeding for 6 and costing more to bounce is just more power for torries. Setites have stealth and then can entice. They dont need help either(with sneaky bleed, at least)

ReverendRevolver wrote:

Also, i dont think anyone NEEDS it.
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Necromancy or protean could use power like this more, and thematically aus would have stuff like this.

I quite like the mechanic, but don't like it being in Presence. I proposed a hypothetical somewhat similarly purposed card for Necromancy some time back, though Peter rightly points out how weak it was for the then-available Samedi due to their discipline spread. This was annoying, as they need the help, when the Giovanni don't so much because they have Dominate (though it might encourage some deck diversity, who knows) - but might be interesting for the Harbingers, say).

I'd rather see such a card go somewhere more obscure that could either do with an outright boost (e.g. Samedi) or which might benefit from some diversity to their strategies.

I don't think presence has nothing over dominate, bleeding-wise. Intimidation, Public Trust come to mind...

As for the effect itself I'd hate to see it in combo with further increase the cost of redirection, like that event whose I forgot the name. 3 blood deflections kills most decks.

Thematically, i have a hard time pinning this to a non bleed discipline, because dem, dom, and pre are all mental ones, so it makes the most sense. Dementation is the least harmful to give this to, because touch of clarity already lets them cancel a deflection, but canceling auspex bounce is still in the purview of obfuscate, so im undecided.

Maybe this mechanic, but +1 bleed, and for protean(and maybe as an action modifier)? Most protean costs blood, thematically if the change into a bat or somethimg it could be harder to deal with them.