Card Submission: Bubasti Mystic

We already have a bastet ally, and ohoyo doesnt have an inherent +1 stealth due to breed.

Looking, i want more werewolf allies that are PLAYABLE. So, im on board with you. Tha stays, as does chi, still on board. Not on board with inherent stealth and bleed with 3 pool wolf with disciplines who also regenerates.

Mikkel won the NAC with tunnel runners this year, so i consider that deck the current strongest wolf deck. This ally,with fermer and computer hacking bleeds for 3 at stealth, like tunnel runners, but can play stealth with necro and tha and chi, and is cheaper than the rats. Unique yes, but maybe too awesome.

Burning a blood each action for the stealth makes it strictly a superior tunnel runner who is unique, and i feel that is entirely reasonable.

Ossian is similar in ways to renegade garou as far as niche, and since the other solid non unique wolf is tunnel runner, the relationship should be similar.
Currently, this card is super good, making stealth cost makes it still good.
It goes in tremere toolbox, since it can bleed, get equipment with mots, and fetches cards along with having tha. Same with !tremere.
It goes with ravnos. Voting and tuminos WoN swarms love it, it shares chi, bleeds at stealth, and can draw possibly needed cards. Also, mass reality builds love it, since it can mots for toys like foldable maxhine gun, ak, etc.
Samedi decks can use it, due to nec stealth, bleeding at stealth, and useful card draw.
Weenie decks couldxuse it, since its an action to put a permastealth minion out who can comouter hack. Or tap and draw cards when yiu need hacks, dbr, etc.
Imbued love it, it bleeds at stealth for one action.
Obviously, tunnel runner and garou builds love it.
Itd be an auto include in ever midlevel allies catch all, due to utility.
Malks even love it, since it bleeds or taps to draw possible gtu or ks/ eoc or conditioning. Id run it with mariel and lucian, and run some mots, bowl, bow, heart trifecta and maybe rego motus to save said malks, along with rev. Blackwood to help.

Theresxmore it goes with, but im bored now. Any deck using carlton, ossian, and unmasking would be ables to play this, with or without the stealth costing. I just worry free stealth is too good on this wolf thats already:cost efficient as wolves get, has disciplines, bleedsxand punches for one, and draws cards.

ReverendRevolver wrote:

We already have a bastet ally, and ohoyo doesnt have an inherent +1 stealth due to breed.

Looking, i want more werewolf allies that are PLAYABLE. So, im on board with you. Tha stays, as does chi, still on board. Not on board with inherent stealth and bleed with 3 pool wolf with disciplines who also regenerates.

Mikkel won the NAC with tunnel runners this year, so i consider that deck the current strongest wolf deck. This ally,with fermer and computer hacking bleeds for 3 at stealth, like tunnel runners, but can play stealth with necro and tha and chi, and is cheaper than the rats. Unique yes, but maybe too awesome.

Burning a blood each action for the stealth makes it strictly a superior tunnel runner who is unique, and i feel that is entirely reasonable.

Ossian is similar in ways to renegade garou as far as niche, and since the other solid non unique wolf is tunnel runner, the relationship should be similar.
Currently, this card is super good, making stealth cost makes it still good.
It goes in tremere toolbox, since it can bleed, get equipment with mots, and fetches cards along with having tha. Same with !tremere.
It goes with ravnos. Voting and tuminos WoN swarms love it, it shares chi, bleeds at stealth, and can draw possibly needed cards. Also, mass reality builds love it, since it can mots for toys like foldable maxhine gun, ak, etc.
Samedi decks can use it, due to nec stealth, bleeding at stealth, and useful card draw.
Weenie decks couldxuse it, since its an action to put a permastealth minion out who can comouter hack. Or tap and draw cards when yiu need hacks, dbr, etc.
Imbued love it, it bleeds at stealth for one action.
Obviously, tunnel runner and garou builds love it.
Itd be an auto include in ever midlevel allies catch all, due to utility.
Malks even love it, since it bleeds or taps to draw possible gtu or ks/ eoc or conditioning. Id run it with mariel and lucian, and run some mots, bowl, bow, heart trifecta and maybe rego motus to save said malks, along with rev. Blackwood to help.

Theresxmore it goes with, but im bored now. Any deck using carlton, ossian, and unmasking would be ables to play this, with or without the stealth costing. I just worry free stealth is too good on this wolf thats already:cost efficient as wolves get, has disciplines, bleedsxand punches for one, and draws cards.

Ohoyo is a Bagheera, which are quite different from Bubasti in the rpg, and is obviously not designed to really take any actions at all looking at her special.

She is not intended to be mainly a bleeder, I could change it that she only gets +1 stealth to non-bleed actions if that is really so big deal to people that 3 pool costing ally can bleed for 1 at 1 stealth. The stealth is mostly to make her more viable for playing actions from those discplines she can use, as well as making her card drawing special a bit more reliable.

You cannot balance every single werewolf ally in the game around Jacob Fermor, doing that would make them all underpowered when used in decks that don't use Jacob Fermor.

Also you need to think about what you would realistically have in your deck first before thinking what all the ally can do in a vacuum. Like for example, would you really play MotS in your mass reality deck if only thing that can play it is one ally in the deck? Similarly, while yes she can get stealth from chi, nec, or tha, most of those cost blood (or life to her), and how many decks use more than one of those discplines? (not counting anarch decks since she can't play anarch requiring cards anyway) Also, you have to remember that while she can do many things, she can only do one thing each turn, either bleed, use her special to draw cards, or play some discpline requiring action, she can't do all of it in one turn.

It is supposed to be general utility ally that can go in many decks, though you do realize that the more decks it can go into, the less reliable it becomes due to uniqueness and contesting, not to mention that various ally steal cards are very popular also, Entrancement especially.

Also I personally think both Carlton and Mylan are overall stronger allies still, and both of them cost less.

Ankha wrote:

I don't quite understand why weenie obfuscate decks wouldn't play it "as is" (with chi) since she bleeds for 1 at +1 stealth and can give you +2 hand size as a +2 stealth action.

Nor do I understand why she would be so much better with [obf] in a weenie obfuscate deck. Because she could play more stealth?

For me, because she could play your Obfuscate cards.

There are basically two alternative scenarios. One is a pseudo-vampire who can bleed for 1, and do hand-cycling fun, at inherent plus stealth. The other is a pseudo-vampire who can do all that, and play your Obfuscate cards. It seems to me that an Obfuscat deck would pick the latter.

Given the card's built-in life regeneration, you could - for example - play Computer Hacking + Old Friend to bleed for three at +1 stealth, and do so sort-of for free (blood-wise) since you go from 2 life back to 3 life, and potentially add plenty of free Obfuscate stealth on top. That's not particularly shabby. Similarly, Night Moves for +4 stealth is unblockable by most decks.

And, in general, being able to cycle cards beats not being able to play cards. So the Obfuscate deck could choose to use it for just 1 bleed at 1 stealth, or it has the option to play more cards.