[Submission] On the Run (cel/obf bleed defense)

ReverendRevolver wrote:

Im not convinced thematically this card fits. Obf and Qui maybe, and thats because its hard to get at who assamites work for. But being hidden and fast making someone unable to bleed you for more than 2? Not feeling it. I mean, it addresses a problem assamites and city gangrel have, but id sooner see a bleed reduction reaction and a +2 stealth on an undirected action if a younger vamp is blocking at superior.

ReverendRevolver wrote:

The super reducing at superior is just kinda crazy, and only falls when combat decks that bleed are yoir predator. Maybe Mattata gets a tier of souls and bleeds with deep song, or even plays Abo bleed pump, but otherwise, the drawback wont be worth playing it if yoi can be torped.

ReverendRevolver wrote:

Im not having Luke Fellows block Cock Robin. Heck, hes only gonna bleed for 2-3 normally, although cog+deepsong+tierofsouls with old friends migjt happen, its unlikely. You wouldnt play it agaimst most decks that rush because they will bleed for 2, then rush the guy, make you lose pool along with likely tension, them bleed more. Im thinking of germain or typical BnB builds, like pre pot, dom pot, or even what i use, dem pot.

ReverendRevolver wrote:

For Nec needs bleed reduction more than obf cel, because nec can do it thematically, for has it already in vtes(just sucks) and samedi and harbingers(to a lesser degree) could use it/cooler stuff.

kombainas wrote:

Thematically, if some obf/cel vampires carry important stuff you don't want to lose, they can save it from baddies by running fast and hidding. The 2 pool left is the thing you can't just take away and have to leave behind.

Given the very same reasoning, a card carrying your last 2 pool would be justified.

Yes, the problem the card is solving is real, but the way it is solved is not consistent with the disciplines used. I'd rather see the *card* made consistent, not the interpretation of it.