file [Submission] Cover Riots 2 (anarch ally)

05 Nov 2014 11:37 - 05 Nov 2014 11:40 #67229 by Ankha
Name: Cover Riots
Cardtype: Ally
Discipline: Auspex/Potence/Presence
Mortal with 1 life. 0 strength, 0 bleed. Requires an anarch. Cumulative.
[aus] Tap and burn to reduce a bleed against you by 1; by 2 if the acting vampire is titled.
 This ally can bleed at +1 bleed as a (D) action that burns this ally; it gets +1 bleed during that action if the Methuselah you are bleeding controls a titled vampire.
[pot] This ally gets +1 strength and an additional +1 strength in combat against a titled vampire.

Cumulative is a short-cut for the keystone kine template.

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Last edit: 05 Nov 2014 11:40 by Ankha.

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05 Nov 2014 11:53 #67231 by Ohlmann
The potence one seem too hard to triger for what it do, since they ally can't natively rush and don't intercept easily either.

Also, I don't remember any three way who cover clan combinations, here the pot / pre is standard for brujah and the aus / pre is standard for toreador.

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05 Nov 2014 12:08 #67232 by cordovader

The potence one seem too hard to triger for what it do, since they ally can't natively rush and don't intercept easily either.

Also, I don't remember any three way who cover clan combinations, here the pot / pre is standard for brujah and the aus / pre is standard for toreador.


pot/pre: brujah, !brujah, guruhi, true brujah
aus/pre: toreador, !toreador
aus/pot: osebo

Don't know if I forget something.

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05 Nov 2014 12:38 - 05 Nov 2014 12:39 #67233 by Timo

The potence one seem too hard to triger for what it do, since they ally can't natively rush and don't intercept easily either.

Also, I don't remember any three way who cover clan combinations, here the pot / pre is standard for brujah and the aus / pre is standard for toreador.


There is aleady a lot of 3-ways who share multiple in-clan discipline.

The most obvious to me because there is a strong synergy being Diversion with :for: :cel: for Ishtari
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05 Nov 2014 14:06 #67234 by Ohlmann

The most obvious to me because there is a strong synergy being Diversion with :for: :cel: for Ishtari


Wasn't it printed before Ishtari even existed ?

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05 Nov 2014 15:12 - 05 Nov 2014 15:14 #67235 by Timo

The most obvious to me because there is a strong synergy being Diversion with :for: :cel: for Ishtari


Wasn't it printed before Ishtari even existed ?


Well, no but I don't think it is problematic. There are some other example like final loosening (:aus: :dem:) or keystone kine (:cel: :obf:) which have 2 disciplines shared by the same clan. And I don't see it as problematic.

What COULD be problematic and should be avoided is 3-ways with 3 in-clan disciplines for the same clan.



except maybe the Brujah which are the greatest anarch in VTM and should have a card which do :
cumulative : :pre: this combat, the opposing minion can't end combat or dodge as a strike ; :pot: +2str until the end of the action ; :cel: 2additional strikes each round until the end of the action (does not count against additional limit)

But it would be mostly corner case
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